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sjballa147
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Well I will be working with a DJ company in which I will be doing weddings. Hope that answers your question. What is the T.V. Card Frame and Cardiographic?

Thank You,
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Ok then if you are working weddings and with a DJ would you mainly be doing strolling style magic or are you presenting a set show at these weddings? I ask as I see mainly strolling style magic at weddings these days. This is not to say a set show wouldn't work. It just may mean you have to market it a bit different is all.

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I agree with Kyle.

This past weekend I was at a large wedding with about 250 people.
The reception room had one family on one side and the other family at the other side of the dance floor. The DJ kept things rolling on the dance floor and there was really no time for a stand up magic act. There were lots of people who remained seated and would have enjoyed a visit from a magician.

During cocktail hour at my daughter's reception there was a fellow twisting some really fancy balloon sculptures that were enjoyed by kids and adults.

At my bro-in-law's reception dinner I did some strolling magic at a couple of tables and at the bar and it went over well.
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This what I have seen myself as well. This is not to say a parlor performance could niot be done, I just have never seen it at a wedding. In most cases there is so much going on and little space, that they really want you more striolling amongst theguest then anything else.

It can also get pretty loud, so I try and do a lot of visual routines where I do not have to try and talk as much. I keep the routines visual and short and that allows me to go around and netretain the crowds.

The cocktail hour is the best time as that also allows me a greater chance to mingle, perform and use patter since the music and such is usually not as loud at this time.

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A Parlor style performance is what the DJ company Management asked for. So, that is what I am going to do. We will also have a package where our clients can get me for walk around magic. So I will be doing both. I just want to be prepared for a parlor show, since I already do walk-around. There are a few tricks/props that you all listed that I'm not familiar with. Those are:
Cardiographic
T.V. Card Frame
Cannon
Crystal Casket
Orange Box
Dean's Box

Maybe some of you can make me familiar with these effects.

Thanks,

Shane
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Since you are new to performing stand up shows, for now, forget things like:
Cardiographic
T.V. Card Frame
Cannon
Crystal Casket
Orange Box
Dean's Box

They are all fine tricks but not what you need right now.

To build an act

Step 1) Use what you’ve got
Since you already do walk around, look at your walk around material and plan to use anything that can play to a large crowd. For example Card to wallet, coin productions, chop cup are all things that could easily play for large crowds. Packet tricks, copper silver, and rubber band magic are examples of things that will not.

Step 2) Build the foundation of your act
Start with the classics of stand up magic, pick a few you like best and learn them. Examples would be Rope tricks, Torn and Restored Paper, Linking Rings, 20th century silk, card to lemon. Sources would be Tarbell, Rice, Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic. The Wilson book has enough stuff for a complete stand up act and in under $20.

Step 3) Add the spice
Now that we have the bases of a 30-45 min act we can add the spice like the things listed above. 1 or 2 items should be enough.


Most importantly don’t start buying stuff because it is the latest thing or gets rave reviews. You will end up spending a lot of time and money and still have no act. I not saying you should never by the latest cool thing, it is fun after all, but that only buying the latest thing will just fill you cabinets and not your act.

Chris
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On 2006-04-03 18:40, carbone1853 wrote:
Most importantly don’t start buying stuff because it is the latest thing or gets rave reviews. You will end up spending a lot of time and money and still have no act.


And he ain't kidding ya!!!
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[quote]On 2006-04-03 19:56, RandyStewart wrote:
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On 2006-04-03 18:40, carbone1853 wrote:
Most importantly don’t start buying stuff because it is the latest thing or gets rave reviews. You will end up spending a lot of time and money and still have no act.


And he ain't kidding ya!!! I see many newcomers make that mistake as I and many here also did when we first got started. You'll be way ahead of the game if you design the act first and then acquire ONLY the materials needed for THAT act! Early on, many of us learned that the hard way.
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I get some wedding receptions in which they want me to do a standup act. There are a lot of Christian Reformed folks in my area and they frown on dancing, at least their church does. They need some other type of entertainment to fill the gap. I have to admit, the strolling magic is much more popular, because most receptions have some dancing.
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There are a lot of Christian Reformed folks in my area and they frown on dancing, at least their church does.


Next time you bump into any of them at the grocery store, say aloud for every one to hear "OK! Great to see ya again and do come by this weekend for a few beers like we did last time!".....
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On 2006-04-03 18:40, carbone1853 wrote:
Since you are new to performing stand up shows, for now, forget things like:
Cardiographic
T.V. Card Frame
Cannon
Crystal Casket
Orange Box
Dean's Box

They are all fine tricks but not what you need right now.

To build an act

Step 1) Use what you’ve got
Since you already do walk around, look at your walk around material and plan to use anything that can play to a large crowd. For example Card to wallet, coin productions, chop cup are all things that could easily play for large crowds. Packet tricks, copper silver, and rubber band magic are examples of things that will not.

Step 2) Build the foundation of your act
Start with the classics of stand up magic, pick a few you like best and learn them. Examples would be Rope tricks, Torn and Restored Paper, Linking Rings, 20th century silk, card to lemon. Sources would be Tarbell, Rice, Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic. The Wilson book has enough stuff for a complete stand up act and in under $20.

Step 3) Add the spice
Now that we have the bases of a 30-45 min act we can add the spice like the things listed above. 1 or 2 items should be enough.


Most importantly don’t start buying stuff because it is the latest thing or gets rave reviews. You will end up spending a lot of time and money and still have no act. I not saying you should never by the latest cool thing, it is fun after all, but that only buying the latest thing will just fill you cabinets and not your act.

Chris


Thanks for the help Chris. And thanks to everyone else who has been helping. I think I'm going to take Chris's advice, but could someone give me a brief effect for each of the tricks above. Thanks in advance.

Shane
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I think I'm going to take Chris's advice, but could someone give me a brief effect for each of the tricks above. Thanks in advance.



sjballa147,

You asked for a description of some of the items suggested. Here's a few I found online:


CARDIOGRAPHIC:

The magician has a spectator select a card from the deck and then takes a sketch pad and begins to draw what he believes will be the selected card. He reveals his sketch only to be told by the spectator that it is incorrect. He then adds a few lines to the picture and tells the audience that it is really just the deck of cards he was drawing. He tells the spectator to concentrate on their card and, as if by magic, the chosen card rises from the SKETCH of the deck! Truly an unbelievable sight. Then for the best part - the sketch is torn from the pad and given to the spectator to keep! An incredibly strong ending that sends the spectator home with a reminder they will never forget. And now, it's repeatable!

Don't be fooled by inferior "pirated" copies on the market today. Only Hocus Pocus is the authorized dealer able to bring you cardiographic! Comes complete with special drawing pad, template, marking pens, and special detailed instructions, including routine suggestions from professional performers who rely on cardiographic's reputation-making qualities.

cardiographic is repeatable!



T.V. CARD FRAME:

A spectator selects a card, tears it into four pieces, keeps one piece and drops the remaining pieces into an empty envelope, which the magician burns! Two plates of Plexiglass are shown, examined by any spectator, and bound with rubber bands by any spectator. Then these are set in a frame that supports them in mid-air (as pictured). The magician now steps back and instructs the spectator to throw the remaining cards at the glass. When the cards hit the glass, one card, with a torn corner appears right before their eyes, between the two plates.

THE FRAME IS NEVER COVERED! The spectators corner matches the torn one on the card. Wow! A complete instruction manuscript is included with every TV Card Frame. In it, you will find over a dozen different effects. In some of the effects, the frame is apparently not used at all.



CRYSTAL CASKET:

Too many versions of this and not which they had suggested to you.


DEAN'S BOX:

http://deandill.com/deans_box.html
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On 2006-04-03 23:14, RandyStewart wrote:
I think I'm going to take Chris's advice, but could someone give me a brief effect for each of the tricks above. Thanks in advance.



sjballa147,

You asked for a description of some of the items suggested. Here's a few I found online:


CARDIOGRAPHIC:

The magician has a spectator select a card from the deck and then takes a sketch pad and begins to draw what he believes will be the selected card. He reveals his sketch only to be told by the spectator that it is incorrect. He then adds a few lines to the picture and tells the audience that it is really just the deck of cards he was drawing. He tells the spectator to concentrate on their card and, as if by magic, the chosen card rises from the SKETCH of the deck! Truly an unbelievable sight. Then for the best part - the sketch is torn from the pad and given to the spectator to keep! An incredibly strong ending that sends the spectator home with a reminder they will never forget. And now, it's repeatable!

Don't be fooled by inferior "pirated" copies on the market today. Only Hocus Pocus is the authorized dealer able to bring you cardiographic! Comes complete with special drawing pad, template, marking pens, and special detailed instructions, including routine suggestions from professional performers who rely on cardiographic's reputation-making qualities.

cardiographic is repeatable!



T.V. CARD FRAME:

A spectator selects a card, tears it into four pieces, keeps one piece and drops the remaining pieces into an empty envelope, which the magician burns! Two plates of Plexiglass are shown, examined by any spectator, and bound with rubber bands by any spectator. Then these are set in a frame that supports them in mid-air (as pictured). The magician now steps back and instructs the spectator to throw the remaining cards at the glass. When the cards hit the glass, one card, with a torn corner appears right before their eyes, between the two plates.

THE FRAME IS NEVER COVERED! The spectators corner matches the torn one on the card. Wow! A complete instruction manuscript is included with every TV Card Frame. In it, you will find over a dozen different effects. In some of the effects, the frame is apparently not used at all.



CRYSTAL CASKET:

Too many versions of this and not which they had suggested to you.


DEAN'S BOX:

http://deandill.com/deans_box.html


Thank You
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One Rope Routine from Richard Sander's "Fiber Optics" is a great parlor routine.
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Thanks Magicman
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