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Peter Hurkos, 77, a Psychic Used by Police

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Published: June 3, 1988

LEAD: Peter Hurkos, a professional psychic who sought clues in the murders for which followers of Charles M. Manson were convicted and in the Boston Strangler murders, died of a heart attack Wednesday, his publicist said. He was 77 years old.

Peter Hurkos, a professional psychic who sought clues in the murders for which followers of Charles M. Manson were convicted and in the Boston Strangler murders, died of a heart attack Wednesday, his publicist said. He was 77 years old.

Mr. Hurkos, born Pieter Van Der Hurk in the Netherlands, gained widespread attention in 1964 when Attorney General Edward W. Brooke of Massachusetts said he had come ''uncannily close'' to describing the person suspected of strangling 11 women in Boston. Mr. Hurkos also helped the authorities in the 1969 Manson case.

He had run-ins with the law as well and was convicted in Milwaukee in 1964 of impersonating an agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Mr. Hurkos said he became psychic in 1941, when, while working as a painter, he fell from a ladder and suffered a brain injury.

He came to the United States in 1956 for psychic experiments, and lived in the Los Angeles area about 25 years.

He is survived by his wife, Stephany Courtney, their daughter, and six children from a previous marriage.
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And, HURKOS was one of the only psychics I know of,good enough to be registered
with the BBB (Better Business Bureau) of Los Angeles! (Not bad for a $200 invest-
ment in the early Seventies...I talked with him for 5 minutes via long-distance
phone;and then via a follow-up call 6 months later.)

As I recounted elsewhere,his predictions (perhaps non-obvious revelations of
natural law plus retroconitive insights into my own past-both which I wouldn't have known otherwise) saved my life;and informed me of certain personal decisions
(which have happened or can still happen).


BTW,Such checkable,non-obvious information which leads to other than a random
result,is the mark of a legitimate psychic...and there are very few of those
around nowadays!
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Certainly a colorful person with an interesting history . . .
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How can you tell whether a result is random or not?
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Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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If he was such a psychic, how come he could not know when he was going to die, and get some medical help for his condition?

Hmm?

This is such malarkey.

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Hurkos was a lot of things, but psychic wasn't one of them. He mainly liked to bend an elbow.
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That and the truth, to be sure.

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Dear Carrie Sue:

You're being overly skeptical,leaning towards an "Amazing Randi" frame of mind.

Back up,and be reasonable: No,psychics CANNOT predict the date of their own
death,because of something called Free Will. This means that the future is not
predestined,but can be changed.

When a client's (Mr. Belk's) daughter died,Hurkos was known to say "I did not see
death". HURKOS had amazing powers,but he was not God. He could not see everything
and he even admitted it!

Dear Muckey Speen:

No,HURKOS' work was documented,he was NOT fake! There's no accounting how he
could,for example,do map dowsing and find a remote location of a crashed airplane
(for a military General,no less) by accident. Sure,he had his failures...but his
successes were astonishing,and still,to this day,can't be explained by "rational"
means. Which means,a "real" psychic could do things NOT possible by magic trickery.

HURKOS was,of course,discovered by a scientist (the late Dr. Andrija Puharich.)
Dr. Puharich also discovered another psyhic,Uri Geller. Mr. Geller's powers were
once ridiculed by the "Amazing" Randi;however,a British court decided in favor of
Mr. Geller (after seeing scientific evidence).

But,HURKOS (and a gentleman named Gerald Croiset) were the forerunners of today's
modern psychics.
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Ronald -
I'm not going to school you in critical thinking - there's no point. Puharich was a notoriously gullible academic who never saw a psychic he didn't believe in. If you still think Geller's real, maybe you should take a look at these videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9w7jHYriFo

By the way - there's no such thing as being "overly skeptical."
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But though the late Dr. Puharich was somewhat of a "hippie"...that DOESN'T
discredit all his work...and the many legitimate things HURKOS; and even
Uri Geller,and others,did!

There was ANOTHER scientist involved at times, Dr. Edgar Mitchell...the former
Apollo astronaut! Dr. Puharich wasn't the only one testing these two psychics
out...A gentleman named E.Douglas Dean actually wrote a book called "ESP in
Business" and then,there was the late Harold Sherman.

Yes, I've heard of the infamous YouTube video...but,"Randi" is not reasonable.
No amount of evidence could sway him. Randi's stuff got on U.S. TV because,the
British courts don't hold such power in the U.S.A. But,of course,in Britain,
it was considered libelous.Mr. Geller was out of line,of course,trying to remove
the video,because,here in the States,it was considered "fair use".

With all the evidence for the existance of ESP and psychic phenomena,Randi STILL
is unreasonable. But this is an ongoing controversy.
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Statistical anomalies and personal anecdotes do not constitute scientific evidence.

I'm an open minded skeptic, and I (semi) regularly perform experiments to probe my own intuitive/psychic nature. It's taught me a lot about my inner self, and I am very happy with that; however... Could I say with any honesty that anything I've experienced would qualify as a genuine psychic phenomena? I don't think so.

But does that mean the whole psychic thing doesn't exist? No. My sampling is very small (just me) and my subjective experiences simply don't count- no matter how insightful and poignant they are (or aren't) to me.

People like Randi, who are so quick to judge and who have an agenda to fulfill, do us all a great disservice in the name of science and enlightenment.

PS- as an aside that's a more interesting question to me- why then, in the face of no conclusive evidence or proof (in the admittedly short amount of time scientific method has been available to humans) does the belief in psychic phenomena persist?

To say that people are "stupid" does not shine a light on the subject, either.
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On 2007-07-25 15:53, gaddy wrote:
People like Randi, who are so quick to judge and who have an agenda to fulfill, do us all a great disservice in the name of science and enlightenment.


I believe Randi does a great service. There are already too many people willing to accept bogus claims of psychic phenomena. Randi reminds everyone that without proof these claims are to be dismissed. We need more skeptics, not fewer. Asking people to back their claims of psychic phenomena is not a disservice. It's the starting point in discussing psychic phenomena and least that should be done.
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On 2006-03-27 16:41, Slim Price wrote:
Peter Hurkos, 77, a Psychic Used by Police

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Published: June 3, 1988

LEAD: Peter Hurkos, a professional psychic who sought clues in the murders for which followers of Charles M. Manson were convicted and in the Boston Strangler murders, died of a heart attack Wednesday, his publicist said. He was 77 years old.

Peter Hurkos, a professional psychic who sought clues in the murders for which followers of Charles M. Manson were convicted and in the Boston Strangler murders, died of a heart attack Wednesday, his publicist said. He was 77 years old.

Mr. Hurkos, born Pieter Van Der Hurk in the Netherlands, gained widespread attention in 1964 when Attorney General Edward W. Brooke of Massachusetts said he had come ''uncannily close'' to describing the person suspected of strangling 11 women in Boston. Mr. Hurkos also helped the authorities in the 1969 Manson case.

He had run-ins with the law as well and was convicted in Milwaukee in 1964 of impersonating an agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Mr. Hurkos said he became psychic in 1941, when, while working as a painter, he fell from a ladder and suffered a brain injury.

He came to the United States in 1956 for psychic experiments, and lived in the Los Angeles area about 25 years.

He is survived by his wife, Stephany Courtney, their daughter, and six children from a previous marriage.
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