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I've been doing this magician thing for cash for about five years now. I've read a lot of books, magazine articles, lecture notes, and Magic Café posts.

Sometimes I wonder if maybe we're working too hard to achieve that Profound Magic Moment - to blow away our audiences, inspire, bewilder, boggle, or create that "Moment of Wonder" that seems to be the result of whatever hot new trick or book (or sleight or prop or...) that comes down the pike.

Is there really any shame in just wanting to be entertaining? I'm not belittling the pursuit of the Profound, but sometimes... "I just wanted it to rhyme, man..."

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Sounds like something Bob Dylan might have said, although I wouldn't know exactly where or when.

So, what do I win?
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Yep. Bob Dylan.

Um. I dunno what you win aside from admiration. I hadn't really thought this through...

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In my opinion... if you just wanna entertain, just tell jokes.
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Even comics don't tell jokes anymore. They are into stories, as well.
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The reason I choose amazement first... Is because amazement in itself is entertaining.
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Entertaining is fun but nothing compares to making them freak.Smile
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The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.
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Well that would be entertaining yourself.
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I bought my first Dylan album in 1963, but that quote is not framiliar to me Mr. Mplegare. Could you give us some more info on it, because "the times they are a changen", "the pump don't work cause the vandels took the handle", "It's time for my boot heels to be wandering", and "it's all over now baby blue". My wife is waiting because "she'll be my baby tonight" and "I have no one mom to look up to"
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On 2006-04-14 16:30, Al Angello wrote:
I bought my first Dylan album in 1963, but that quote is not framiliar to me Mr. Mplegare. Could you give us some more info on it?


I was kind of wondering the same thing. I have quite a study of Mr Dylan. I don't remember ever seeing that quote. Any clue where that came from?
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On 2006-04-04 15:41, mplegare wrote:

Is there really any shame in just wanting to be entertaining? I'm not belittling the pursuit of the Profound, but sometimes... "I just wanted it to rhyme, man..."



In short order, no. Magic should be entertaining. It should bring enjoyment to our audiance. No matter what kind of magic we do, it needs to have a value. Some of the simpilist things I do offer the greatest entertainment. Whether it's expounding upon a story with magic, using magic to scare, or just to cause amazement, it HAS to be entertaining.

"If it ain't... they can always go watch someone or something else."

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I was kind of wondering the same thing. I have quite a study of Mr Dylan. I don't remember ever seeing that quote. Any clue where that came from?


Try putting the phrase in Google. That's what I did. Smile

One Google "hit" has a member of another forum say this:

"...I cant help thinking of Bob Dylan. I read once that when Jimmy Carter called him from the White House to express his admiration of the mans music and its profound philosophical effect on his own ideas, Dylan answered "Gee, Mr. President, I just wanted it to rhyme"."

I don't know where he read this, so the search goes on...
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Dave!! I'm not sure I would trust what any member of THAT forum has to say. LOL.

I have secrched but found nothing really solid. I think I'm gonna be forced to go back to that God Awful Dylan forum and see if one of those chumps knows where it came from.

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Another message implied someone read a line in a Doonesbury comic strip. They often parody real life events, so it could be based in fact, or it could just be one of those "urban legend" stories we'll never be able to prove.
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Well, I don't know about you guys, but I think I just saw the frowns on the faces of the clowns when they all do their tricks for me, and discovered that it just ain't good to let other people get your kicks for you, so I decided to paint my passport brown...

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Another Dylanophile!! There was a time (for about 10 years) where I listened to NOTHING but Dylan music. I've read all the books, have all the music and seen all the movies and TV specials. I used to post on the old Sony Dylan board under the name Barefoot Servant. I've seen him live over a dozen times. How about you guys? You must be my kind of folks, most people seem to either love Dylan or hate him.

The other night on Jeopardy they had a category where they would give the lyric and the contestants had to provide the Bob Dylan song title. It was childs play, but I think the contestants only got one correct answer. That would be a dream category for me if I had been on the show.

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Penn & Teller, Harry Anderson, the Amazing Jonathan, Mac King...just a few who entertain with magic without taking the art or themselves too seriously. Their focus is clearly on the term...Entertain. If you're one who takes the finger flicking and assistant dicing seriously...more power to ya...but, it seems to me that the biggest names in the industry...including Copperfield, Burton, Arthur, Fischbacher and Horn...incorporate the power of laughter in their shows for a reason. The days of Thurston, Houdini, Blackstone and the like are long gone and today magic is seen for what it is. Entertainment...rather than mystical feats overpowering the laws of nature through netherworld interaction. Just my opinion.
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Oh yeah, Thanks for bringing it back on track Skip. I agree 100 percent.
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Yeah, there's something happening and you don't know what it is . . .

BTW maybe the Dylan quote is from his autobiography, Chronicles? Just a guess.


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No problem, Vandy! Besides, I really enjoyed Dylan's portrayal as Samantha's husband on the original Bewitched. It's cool, dude!

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