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NJJ
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I perform card to spectator's fly, with a pair of BBQ tongs, whilst "lets get it on" plays in the background.

I would not and could not perform this for an audience of children or an audience of families such as a festival. However, the routine has no blue humour, no actual mention of sex and not a single double meaning. There is a vage innuendo as I slowly take off my jacket to perform the trick but that is about it.

Therefore, I could perform it, in a theatre show sold to adults that a handful of children are attending, a 21st birthday with a couple of little brothers and sisters or in a street show where the audience has kids.

So, the question I ask is this, is the appropriateness of some material defined not by the audience but by the situation in which you find the audience?
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On 2006-04-04 23:21, Nicholas J. Johnson wrote:
I could perform it, in a theatre show sold to adults that a handful of children are attending....

I don't think so.

In a comedy club, yes.
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Agreed. Not appropriate for venues with children. Funny idea though . . .

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I think his point was not to perform this in a "family friendly" setting but rather in adult venues where the parents choose to bring their children knowing what's going to take place. It's similar to a lot of the Casino shows here in Las Vegas. They warn of content, but they typically don't turn away patrons. Except for the obvious "Adult" shows in town, the usual age restriction here is 6 years of age, basically to avoid the "screaming baby" syndrome that disrupts the show for everyone else.
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Dave I agree
and this sounds like a great routine... Nick do you have a demo of the performance? I would love to see you doing this.
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Dave - That is exactly the type of event I was talking about.

Vinny - I do have a demo of it! I try and put it into a good format for you.
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I love it!
If did cards I'd probably ask for your blessing to perform it, very funny.
Were it possible for you to have the spectator pull it from your fly - it might play better in mixed crowds.
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BTW,

Last night in NYC PBS replayed the Salute to Steve Martin television show where they showed clips of his Flydini routine. Nicholas--if you've never seen it, you've got to get a hold of it! PM me and let's see if I can get a tape off to far away Australia.

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Nicholas, I don't get it. Why would you want to do this routine? What do you think this suggests to your audience? I would think it would be embarasing to the volunteer especially if he is unclear about your intentions.

Have you actually done this? Or are you just testing the waters to see what other's might think. If you are, I am giving it a definite thumbs down.

I was talking to a friend about assigning a "wince factor" to some of the phrases, and odd things that magicians do. On a scale of one to ten this get's a wince factor of "10". Especially coming from a guy who's last name is "Johnson".

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Again, I will say it:

Your material should never ever be dictated by the audience or the venue. Your material should be dictated by your character/persona, and the audience and the venue will be dictated by your character/persona as well. How many kids shows do you think Big Daddy Cool does? Answer: 0!
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On 2006-04-07 12:34, cinemagician wrote:
Nicholas, I don't get it. Why would you want to do this routine?


Because it is funny and magical.

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What do you think this suggests to your audience?


That I am funny and magical

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I would think it would be embarasing to the volunteer especially if he is unclear about your intentions.



Its not. I pick the right volunteer and handle them correctly.

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Have you actually done this? Or are you just testing the waters to see what other's might think. If you are, I am giving it a definite thumbs down.


Many times.

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I was talking to a friend about assigning a "wince factor" to some of the phrases, and odd things that magicians do. On a scale of one to ten this get's a wince factor of "10". Especially coming from a guy who's last name is "Johnson".

Sorry- Mark


I don't understand what my surname has to do with anything.

With all due respect Mark, it is impossible to judge the appropriateness of a routine and the entertainment value without seeing it first hand. Particularly when you are in another country and have little knowledge of the audiences and situations this routine is performed at.

For example, I find the 'wince factor' of gospel magic and renassiance magic very high but since I have never performed in front of a church service or at a renanssiance fair I don't pass judgement.
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Nicholas:

Here in the United States, "Johnson" is a slang term for a guys genitals.

I, too, doubt that this routine would be very commercial to just about any audience buy gay men. If that's your choice of audience, then go for it. But I can tell you as a typical heterosexual male, it would be a BIG turn off for me to see a performer digging into another guy's fly with BBQ tongs. And...if you were to try this on a woman, you would soon be hit with a "sexual harrassment" lawsuit or something worse.

But things may different where you are. So, to answer your question - of course, the appropriateness of material is defined by your audience.

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Nicholas this may be way out of left field, but bear with me you will like the ending.

I think the limitations live with in YOU the performer. For example I have an Irish baby face. I will look 30 when I am 50. IF I do suggestive routines of ANY sort in any environment, they die when combined with my look and personality.

See what I mean? You may very well be able to pull it off in the venue of which you speak. I personally could NEVER do it. The venue matters, but so does the performer.

Heba Haba Al used to do the Bra trick. MAN HE GOT SCREAMS! Heck some days he was in there up to his elbow! I could NEVER do that. See the difference.

I bet you know if you can pull it off or not. You know your personality well enough, and the venue. Good luck.
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I think it depends entirely on the manner in which it is done. Mac King pulls Fig Newtons out of his fly in his show. My kids thought it was hilarious. It's not really done in a racy sort of way. (I suppose it would be difficult for people to have racy thoughts about Mac King. Smile )

So, as others have said, it depends entirely on your personality. It could be racy, or it could be simple potty humor, which kids happen to find hilarious.....

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Nicholas, I was a bit harsh in the way I offered my oppinion of the routine you described.

In truth I do not know much about your performance character but I can guess that judging by your avitar that you are playing a "zainey" mad hatter kind of character. If this is the case it may work for you.

I am almost too young to remember Benny Hill - but when I consider HIM this kind of thing would be very funny if HE did it, and would have fit into one of his sketches had he designed the right character for this particular sketch.

I'm just wondering if you'll be able to slip back into character after performing this bit, it would seem very challenging to me.

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On 2006-04-24 00:09, saxmangeoff wrote:
(I suppose it would be difficult for people to have racy thoughts about Mac King. Smile )




Mrs Mac King?
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On 2006-04-22 16:24, Ron Reid wrote:
Nicholas:
Here in the United States, "Johnson" is a slang term for a guys genitals.


Don't feel bad Nicholas. My first name is 'Randy' and my UK friends give me the occasional snide remark about that. You do know what 'Randy' means in their country yes?

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On 2006-04-22 16:24, Ron Reid wrote:
I, too, doubt that this routine would be very commercial to just about any audience buy gay men.


So reaching into that part of a person's clothing and anatomy is more likely to appeal to gay men and not heterosexuals? Now is this typical heterosexual logic or a complete absence of it? Is the deviation in someone's lifestyle or your thinking?
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On 2006-04-24 00:44, Nicholas J. Johnson wrote:
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On 2006-04-24 00:09, saxmangeoff wrote:
(I suppose it would be difficult for people to have racy thoughts about Mac King. Smile )


Mrs Mac King?


Ha ha! Good one.

Yes, I suppose that would be the one exception.

Geoff
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