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Furniture
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I have been performing magic for 4 years but I have got a problem, I have met an English girl and... I cant fool her. She figures out all my tricks: DLs, palmed coins, all mental suggestions... what can I do? any special tricks for smart people?

ps I have no problems fooling other people, I'm a skilled magician.
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Do a "sucker" effect, it doesn't really matter how basic, in fact you cold make one up yourself.

Basically you make a certain move (preferably one she already knows about) really obvious so that she thinks she knows how it's done, and then use a different method to achieve the same result.

Once she thinks she knows how the trick is done, she'll probably stick to her theory, and that's when you blow her mind with the "different method"

Maybe someone else can explain this better, I know my explanation isn't great
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Well said, Fandango. Btw, what kind of reactions that english women give in magic performance? for example, Japanese girls are really lively and Aussie chicks basicallt swear a lot. Am I being discriminating now??? I know people know that I'm not. Lol.
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Is the fact that she's English the problem? Or is she just very observant. I agree with Fandango, do a sucker trick. Use her keen eye against her. If she thinks she can see everything you do then convince her you're doing something one way when you're actually doing it another way.

Someone famous once said those that are sceptical are the easiest to fool......or something along that lines.
"But where did the lighter fluid come from?"
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I have a brother who is the same way. One day I found the secret of fooling him; I lied when he guessed right. To this day, whenever he says he has never been fooled, I remind him of the one he didn't figure out.
What do you want in a site? "Honesty, integrity and decency." -Mike Doogan
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Ahh the lie, always the best out. One of the reasons I love Magic so much. Bond has a licence to kill, I have one to lie, and no one gets hurt.
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This is kinda like the sucker effect, but start a difficult trick that looks very similar, if not identical to another, much easier one. She'll notice immediately some things, she'll think "ok, this guy sucks." then you pull your move and she's stunned.

I can think of one off the top of my head. Daniel Garcia's "Nacho mama's triumph." basically, you start off exactly like a triumph, all the simple moves and such. Then, at the end, after you reveal her card is facing the other way, suddenly the entire deck has changed color.
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Funny, in Ortiz's book "Strong magic" when you meet this kind of spectators...just ignore her and finish the trick and leave.

Me....I'll do sucker trick and if she still does not shut up I will look at her and say, "I can see you really want to sleep with me because you wanna be on the same level of intelligence with me. I'm not that easy, though. Look, give me your number and I might call you depending on my mood". I always get the look from women of the heckler type "no...you did not say that". And they ended up apologizing to me when we went out and she actually said that she could be wrong in trying to figure out my trick.

My point..??? Just show command and "look down" on these type of audiences in gentleman way.

if the heckler was guy, I'd just smile and say "Of course you are right" and I'll do series of sucker tricks to fool him and say, "I'm glad that we could work together". Always get respect.
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You could possibly try a gimmick...

I doubt she could have the knowledge to figure out something along those lines, but I could very well be mistaken...

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Just speak French to her.
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For a smart-alec spectator, I use the very simple 'find a card' trick using a key card, presented as a mental effect. Make lots of comments about their mind being 'hard to read' and 'seeing nothing' and 'all I get is a blank' as you turn the cards over one at a time. Turn over cards until you are three or four cards PAST their card, then bet them $20 the next card you turn over will be theirs. Of course once they take the bet, you go back and turn over their card that you'd already turned over.
In my experience, spectators who think they know everything always fall for this as a chance to prove you wrong. Do this in front of others they know, and insist that they pay you. They won't try to show you up again for fear of being caught in a sucker bet like that again!
Of course, if this is a girl you're interested in, you probably don't want to do this. In fact, if you think you may want to marry this girl someday, it would be best to just give in and admit that she's smarter than you and is always right. That will save you lots of time later after you're married. Smile
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I think you should appreciate her honesty. If you're not fooling her, are you sure you're fooling everyone else? Perhaps other people are just being more polite?
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Why do you want to fool this girl?
She is apparently very observant and does not like being fooled.
Take her out for Ice Cream instead.

Mike.
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The Ice Cream answer is the best one, but rjenkins is right as well, maybe I'm not fooling anyone Smile

Is great when someone believes in magic and you are able to make them believe, sometimes you can only say 'i fool you'. I will fake some movements to see how it works and let you know about that.

thank you very much for your answers
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Ever think she might know magic and is fooling you into thinking she can not be fooled.
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again."
George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.17, 2002
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Jonathan Kelly
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Oh I love that Bush quote. One of many on my George Bush Quotes poster!

"We need an energy bill that encourages consumption." - genius.
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My mother has an I.Q. just shy of 170. When I was younger I could NOT fool her. I taught her to play chess and after the second game I never won another. I was not amused. The chess I could care less, but the magic thing was literally driving me to distraction.

I finally learned to do the Professor's Nightmare and to do it well. False count on the three equal ropes, etc. That was it. Totally fooled her. From that point on I realized that a lot of it did in fact have to do with me. I learned to select things that I knew would in fact fool here.

You have to watch out that you don't get too flustered about it. That puts you at a disadvantage right off. You body language will be all over the place up tight. What fools really smart folks a lot of the time IS the acting that you do to convince them that something is not what it is.

Here's an odd story of smart folk that I will never forget: Guy calls to book me for a show. Cocktail party which is all I was doing at the time. He hesitates and says, that the show is for 50 Ph.D physists and their wives or husbands about 1/2 of which have Ph.D's in some other discipline! No problem. My experience by that time was that the smarter they are the harder they fall.

I do the show. Get good reaction on all my fancy card, coin, sponge ball, chop cup work. But, you want to know the hit of the evening??? My $5.00 set of Adam's Chinese Sticks! Yep, it blew them away!!! O.k., I really DO do the Chiness Sticks well, but come on. I learned a great lesson. Simple direct stuff fools really smart people. Why? Because they always OUT THINK themselves! It's gotta be magnets. It's gotta be some complicated mechanism, yada, yada. Once they are on that course they are doomed. Simple stuff fools smart people. Think back and remember the first time you were fooled by something like the coin thru the rubber dental dam. Crazy Cube is a classic. Remember. Remember. Best,
Brad Burt
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My girlfriend used to do the same to me.
figured out a lot of stuff.
but, she used to.
I floored her with mindbender though.
such an easy effect that hits soo hard.
I am not sure what happened but since then , maybe she isn't expecting to figure it out or maybe just beeing polite Smile

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Do a self working effect where there is nothing to find or hide.
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Try the Scotch and Soda and if she still can reveal it...just do not do magic to her anymore. ;o)
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