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Jesse some people are just jealous. One in particular. Wonder what they have created. Maybe a trick that involves crying!
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Wonder what they have created. Maybe a trick that involves crying !



........ and thumb sucking as well Smile



I think teevtees posts are turning out to be more like police interrogations rather than enquiries.
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As usual, certain people rant and rave, gets obvious who they are so start noticing posts from specific people and they will become expected and mainly negative. No need for that at all.

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LOL Smile I have to cringe everytime I come back! Thanks for your understanding guys! Sorry to make you sift through the crazyness in search of a normal review. Luckly, the FIRST PAGE!!!! has some reviews and of course, more to come.
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A) Nothing negative about my posts in general or my posts here to be specific. Look at my thoughts on the effect "$" for example... nothng but glowing praise. When an effect is good and honest I LOVE raving about them in positive and effusive ways. I am NOT commenting on the EFFECT intact because I have not seen it in person. I am simply commenting on the video and this is all I have EVER commented on. It seems to me that Jesse continues to have a real problem showing us videos that show what the actual effect does and not some fiction.

B) No crying or thumb sucking. All I have ever done on this thread is ask for a simple and direct answer from jesse, and he flat refuses to give it. I guess that means we all know that the answer to the question is "no" you cannot do what the demo video showed. I have to wonder then why Jesse is showing that video in the first place, why was it even filmed?

C) Yes Jesse, "us" as in my self, and the several other people who asked for the question to be answered. You STILL have no answered it. What you have said is that you will put up a new video that shows a full performance. GREAT, I look forward to seeing that, honestly, but that was not what I was asking.

D) You asked "WTF?" I guess I have the same exact question for you "WTF"

Finally Jesse, I responded to your last PM and I am still waiting a response...
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Teevee has a valid point. Whether or not the video was an actual performance demo or not, it most certainly would lead someone to believe that the card can be taken out in that manner.

On the other hand, Jesse mentioned in his (next to) last post that taking the card out in that manner is possible.

The points being made are clear, so both sides repeating them does no good right now. Those who don't see Teevee's point don't want to see it, and vice versa. Might be better to wait for "THE DEMO" :^) and go from there.
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Hi Jesse,

I think people can make up their own mind as to whether my original question actually answered or not. Personally, I don't think it was but that's your choice.

I am honestly thinking of buying the trick. However, if I cannot remove the card as shown in the original demo, do I get a refund?

Many thanks,
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Why the frick does a demo matter anyway? Who cares, it's all trivial...it's just magic folks! Smile

Does teevtee go to McDonalds and complain because his Big Mac doesn't look like the one in the picture?

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On 2006-05-03 20:57, johnnymystic wrote:

Why the frick does a demo matter anyway ?



It DOES matter.

Becouse that's what sells magic tricks.
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On 2006-05-03 20:57, johnnymystic wrote:
Does teevtee go to McDonalds and complain because his Big Mac doesn't look like the one in the picture?


If they showed someone eating a Big mac, cut away, then showed them having lost weight (the burger is examinable btw) saying you could lose weight with MacDonalds.....but neglected to say you have to walk 10 miles a day to get to the restaurant.... I think we'd complain.
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From a neutral standpoint, Jesse seems to be beating around the bush. All customers are asking for is truth and honesty in video demos. If you think this effect isn't suitable on video, don't make one. The Glass Mirage effect is a fine example on a dishonest video with one too many cuts.

As magicians, we are looking at effects from a magician's point of view. When making purchases, we want to know how the effect plays in our hands rather than what the audience sees it as. We as performers present our routines in our own unique style. Some performers being purists, avoid gimmicks. Some magicians prefer examinable props while others avoid having to do a switch a the end. We try to make sensible purchases as to whether the effects will suit us. The market is flooded with Card to Impossible Location effects. We need to know what makes one stand out from the rest.

I can understand teevtee's reactions after being burnt by PTA. From what I observed, Jesse likes to put moves on videos not found in the original instructions. First, it was PTA. Now, InTact. I see no reason in putting up extra moves and proclaim it can be done and you will explain them to owners after people complain. It seems either you rush into the release or your just making your effects look good on camera to boost your sales.

Video demos are useful but if you feel it would expose the method, don't do one.
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Please let me try to clear this up. First, what you saw in the trailer IS actually possible with Intact, yes. What you saw was not a performance but It is totally possible. Its basically the same thing as the original routine. Any owner could easily figure out how a folded card could be hidden inside. In the full demo, I am going to make sure that I show two different "extractions" of the card. The full routine in the instructions explains how to do the exact same effect as the description (my site and Hanks). Many things are possible with Intact. You could make a folded bill appear inside, a coin, a mini playing card... etc. When you own intact, you will understand what I am talking about. I explain all of this in the extra's. And the new forum is designed for sharing these ideas with owners.

Please PM me if you have any specific questions that might not contain any actual reviews of intact or at least regular discussion. I have only been talking to one of you, so lets get serious guys. Intact is an awesome trick that you will love. Read the reviews. Thanks guys.
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Hey Jesse,
I have been thinkin about buyin this...are you gonna be around Hanks any time in the near future to demo it live?
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I noticed the card in the video wasn't signed, is that integral to the alternate method of having the card come straight from the box? I'm not fishing for the method by any means, I just believe that IF that is the case then the demo was NOT missleading.

If I can have a card selected and have it visually appear inside the box, then remove is as per the demo... all be it without the signature, then yes... I'll take one please! Smile

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This saturday my man!!! Let me know whats good. I have to work all day, but I should be able to pop in at the end of the day... probably 4-6. I'll show you all of the inner workings... then you could give an new review for everyone, that would be great. Usually on saturdays I'll go in. Anyone in the area, hit me up.

Thank you for all of the support everyone... I hope things are clear now.
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I think Coinman summed up my concerns and others concerns very well.

I think I have certainly stated my concerns and worries and in fact OVER stated them (I get stubborn sometimes) so I will not repeat them again thoough they are still there.

Jesse has told me in private and now here on this forum that what you see on that demo video IS possible. Now he keeps saying that it is not a demo video but just a trailer but I really don't see the difference or understand why he would put out a trailer that is not really the trick... just semes confusing and in fact has created this debate.

I think that what Jesse is really saying here is that if you wanta SIGNED card to come out of the case then no, it will not look like the video. If you want just any old card to come out then you can rig something to make that work. Fair enough but you can see how one would be confused if they did not go through a two day discussion about it.

After all of this I am willing to cut Jesse some slack untill I can check this out myself, should be interesting.

Lastly, Johnny, I guess we just have MASSIVELY different views of the world and have to leave it at that. I do not accept being duped or scamed whenever possible. While your example of a McDonalds ad is clever it does not really hold water. Jesse or any creator of magic is free to make the trick look as dramatic as possible for the packaging. Show the Tic Tac box with lightning shooting out of it for all I care. But Jesse is never claiming that lighning shoot out of the box, a reasonable person understands that something like that is for looks only. But when you see something that looks like all the world a deom video of a magic trick being shown to magicians who may buy the trick... wehll your *** straight I want that to be accurate and truthful.

If you accept being deceived as just something that is OK or normal then again, we just don't see eye to eye on that but it is your perogative.
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Same as PTA? where we COULD actually do the part where the pen seemly appear on the other side of the arm? So that's what intact demo showed too? the possibilities again?
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Jaxon has an excellent principle he uses in Bill Burner and near the end of this thread

http://themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic......59&2

he mentions doing it with a TicTac. Jessiah has a great application for it but as I remember the video said that it was a new concept. Still a great application.

/Tomas
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So have Jesse and Jaxon simultaniously released a similar product?
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I don't think we did. I heard about his new effects a couple of days ago. similar sort of, but different in many ways. Intact has an exact science to it... its hard to imagine someone else got what I got. The way the gaff works with everything else is definitely something new and unique... so you got two different things here. I definitely recommend Jaxon's products... he's a great mind in magic for sure! I bet these effects would be GREAT together. Thanks for bringing this to everyones attention. I would recommend purchasers of intact check out Jaxon's new effects. Great combo I'm sure.
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