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Is this a good aproach?

Well first of all, I'm currently in exam period at univeristy, so I'm mainly practicing sleights, since they are quick, I'll get back to routines when I've more time.

However, I still have time to think, so I've been mentally planning out things, for this reason I've been asking about utilities and transitions a lot recently on the Café.

When I've been thinking about routines I've been thinking about modularity. My idea was that to have a set of short routines, a few effects, all the same style.
For instance, a short 3-5 minute coin routine containing a few effects. Or a 5-10 minute Gambling routine, A Routine using rings, and so on.

The next point was to have a few transitions, for example putting away your coins and producing a deck, vanishing the deck only to pull something else out. and so on.

The reason I've been thinking this is that if you perform walk around, pick on of your routines that seems appropriate, do that for this group/table, then you've others to do for the next. Also, if you need to do a longer routine, or even a whole show of close-up, then you can just transition between the various stages you've already come up with and practiced.

Is this a good approach? If not, what kind of idea should I have for routining?
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I think it essentialy comes down to what you aim to achieve. for me personally when I work in a restaurant I do an attention getting opener then usually a nice coin or card routine that incorporates a few different elemts ie, vanish, transposition, visual change etc... then finish with a big closer. I have 3 - 4 sets like this that I use as I move from table to table. But hey that's just what works for me. I wouldn't do, say a gambling routine at at one table then move on because if they don't like this sort of thing your in trouble, at least if they don't like a card trick they may enjoy a coin trick.

I think the bottom line is with experience you quickly get to know what people are reacting to and change your act accordingly. I use a very casual approach and rairly know exactly what I'm doing after the opener. Sometimes I've done no magic just used visual gags, a bit of hat juggling and a few jokes for 5 mins and moved on.... just because they were enjoying themselves which is the name of the game.

Hope this is some help, at the end of the day there is no right or wrong answer, but you need your act to be flexible enough to be able to a U turn if your stuff ain't going down to well.
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I think it essentialy comes down to what you aim to achieve. for me personally when I work in a restaurant I do an attention getting opener then usually a nice coin or card routine that incorporates a few different elemts ie, vanish, transposition, visual change etc... then finish with a big closer. I have 3 - 4 sets like this that I use as I move from table to table. But hey that's just what works for me. I wouldn't do, say a gambling routine at at one table then move on because if they don't like this sort of thing your in trouble, at least if they don't like a card trick they may enjoy a coin trick.

I think the bottom line is with experience you quickly get to know what people are reacting to and change your act accordingly. I use a very casual approach and rairly know exactly what I'm doing after the opener. Sometimes I've done no magic just used visual gags, a bit of hat juggling and a few jokes for 5 mins and moved on.... just because they were enjoying themselves which is the name of the game.

Hope this is some help, at the end of the day there is no right or wrong answer, but you need your act to be flexible enough to be able to a U turn if your stuff ain't going down to well.
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Paul,

I understand what you're saying, I've thought about the same things.

I suppose I wasn't clear enough in my last post. That's one of the reason for smooth transition moves (produce, vanish the main prop while getting another one out, or vanish one produce the next, or some other nice transition). If one routine didn't go down well, then switch to another one. I just thought that having a bunch of themed stuff, or things that go well together prepared, with transitions so you can switch between, or fit them together might be a nice approach.

I think that's a better idea than performing one trick, then something that may be discordant with it. Of course, doing a good opener then winging it is also a very valid technique Smile
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I think the better choice is to script your sets, but script them with modular forms. A good example would be to script a set of effect, but have several different effects that work in that script. You would still want a particular script for each particular efffect, but the socialising, and transition work would be the same, and would transition you through different effects that appealed to the same nature, plot, or theme. The best alternative to that is to have different sets that cover different genre's of magic. You could switch sets as needed, even have a transition that takes you from the middle of one set, to the start of another.

I also suggest reading my post I called "Scripting and Rehersal 101"

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=106

I'm sure people are going to get tired of me putting that link in threads, but I'm realy proud of that post.
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Keeping it modular is a good idea.

I know this is not necessary but I like to make my sets using a couple of different props that I can do a couple of different effects with. Either by combining the two or using them alone.

One example would be elastic bands and dollar bills.
With these I have a choice of doing "Ghost Bills", "Traveling Cash", CMH, Linking elastics. Add a TT and I can include "$100 Bill Change" or Silk from bill.

Another is a pen and coins.
"Recap" is one and...
I've worked on doing a "Coin in Pen Cap" routine with a couple of additional coins in hand. I've called 'Bank Pen'. This allows me to do a Coins Across, Spellbound or another coin effect after dumping not one but a couple of coins from the cap.

And yet another uses a finger ring (borrowed if need be) and and a key.
Ring to Key ala Bobo's "Coin to Key", Wilsons "Florida Keys", and Dusheck's "Ringer".
An option is to include a ring and string routine.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the posts guys, it's given me something to think about.
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