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VernonOnCoins Inner circle NYC 1978 Posts |
Any card called by a spectator appears as a blister on your thumb and index finger. No deck, No force....
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jfkkraemer Elite user SoCal 481 Posts |
I believe it has just started shipping from stores, I recieved word HP sent mine out Friday of last week, should have it by Tuesday and any one with experience with another similar effect Pyro Pefrception would probably agree site unseen should be a great add on.
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sabitu Special user USA 533 Posts |
I received Third Degree Burn today. I received a gimmick, instruction booklet, and a DVD. Everyone knows what this effect is so I will just give my impressions on the materials I received. First of all, I was very impressed with the instruction booklet. Everything is clearly explained and it is very detailed. The DVD also clearly explains the effect but it does so visually.
The gimmick iteself is impressive. I can see why this trick is in the $50 range just from looking at the construction of the gimmick. It is obviously professionaly made. It uses the same basic concept that other blister effects like Pyro Perception have used, but it is much more advanced since any card can be named and not just a select few. This gimmick was made to make it as easy as possible to locate the value and suit of the card that the spectator names. The instructions do a good job of giving tips on how to find the value and suit easily. Overall I am very pleased with this effect. I also own Pyro Perception and I have to say that Third Degree Burn is more up my alley, especially since I like to perform mentalism effects. I plan to use my Outlaw Wallet or a center tear to get the spectators card choice which I believe will enhance the effect. I have yet to perform this yet as I am still practicing, but I will give a performance review soon. |
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ClouDsss Inner circle 1799 Posts |
How long would it take to make the blisters? Since we have to feel for the different suits and number values.
Think outside the box, cos people are all thinking inside now!! - ClouDsss
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johnnymystic Inner circle North Adams Ma. 1576 Posts |
Is this a hand in the pocket for too long type of effect?
What I'd like to hear is some real world reactions to this device, why post if you haven't really perfomed it in the real world? Crazy man! johnny
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sabitu Special user USA 533 Posts |
I can't give an time estimate on how long it would take to find the value and suit to make the impression since I have not performed this yet. I just wanted to give an overview of the quality of the gimmick and instructions in my previous post.
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
OK I own Pyro Perception and do it ALL the time. How much pocket space in comparison. I keep my Pyro, coin purse or maybe some bunnies and or my TT. So that is what I like about Pyro, it lays nice and Flat. Can you help me with this question?
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sabitu Special user USA 533 Posts |
Thanks for mentioning this. The size of the gimmick is probably the only drawback to this effect. It is bigger than the Pyro Perception gimmick and it will take up more pocket space. If you keep the gimmick in your jeans pocket it will most likely be a snug fit and you will not have space to store other stuff in that pocket. You also need some pocket space to "move" the gimmick when you are doing the dirty work which can be hard to do in smaller pockets, but it can be done. A jacket pocket that is bigger would make it easier to do the dirty work. So depending on your pocket size, the size of the gimmick might cause some trouble or it might not.
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MagicBrent Inner circle 2574 Posts |
I just want to say that this is a classy item. The marketing is great and the gimmick is cool. I found the size of the pocket important in be able to manipulate the gimmick so that the burns appear to the side like on the picture rather than head on. You want to be able to read it left to right with thumb and index finger. This is really worth the investment. It's true that once you learn it, you can do it within 15 minutes. I freaked a kid out with it today. I was outside and didn't have a lighter, but I asked for a card and we walked to a metal sign that the sun was shining on. Walking over to it and chatting gave me time to casually do the dirty work and then I had him concentrate and focus his card onto the metal and then I touch the hot metal...great reaction.
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CoinMan21 Elite user China 442 Posts |
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It's true that once you learn it, you can do it within 15 minutes. So your saying once you learnt the effect, it takes 15 mins to get the blisters on? |
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tdowell Inner circle 1050 Posts |
Received mine today in the mail and I'm very happy with it. Eliminates the old Pyro Perception force issue. Any card any suit. Nicely made gimmick and worth the price. Good job and kudo's to Jason.
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walking_liberty Elite user 458 Posts |
What is the average time that it takes to get "prepared"? It takes me about 2-3 seconds with pyro perception. I love the idea of being able to do any card.
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ClouDsss Inner circle 1799 Posts |
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On 2006-05-09 21:54, CoinMan21 wrote: I think he was referring to within 15 min you would know which suit, number and how to find it on the gimmick? I am also interested to know how long it requries our hand to be inside the pocket, since there are 4 suits and 13 values
Think outside the box, cos people are all thinking inside now!! - ClouDsss
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walking_liberty Elite user 458 Posts |
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On 2006-05-09 23:27, ClouDsss wrote: I think he meant that within 15 minutes of learning how to use it you're ready to perform with it. |
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Jason Palter V.I.P. 335 Posts |
Hello all:
Let me first of all say: they'reeeeeee heeeeeere!!! After a few delays, we finally received tons of stock of Third Degree Burn, and it is now available for direct purchase from our site. Please visit and buy if you'd like (or if you don't like, buy anyways!! lol)! Secondly, to answer one of the major questions regarding the time it takes to do the dirty work: For me, from the moment that I know the spectator's card, I have done the dirty work and am ready for the climax within only 15-20 seconds AT THE MOST. During this time I am talking a little bit, asking if there is anything I did or said that made them think of this card, confirming that it was their free choice, etc. The spectator would have no reason to suspect anything during this, because the words that I am saying are quite natural and are things you would normally ask someone. However, if you want to use the full worded presentation that is supplied, it gives you PLENTY of time to do the dirty work while you are talking---so no worries there. Everyone who has tried this trick doing it either the long way or the short way has never had a problem nor been suspected of doing anything fishy. And please remember, this is not a forced card, and so as a result, it will take a few extra seconds to get the blister. But believe me, if it does take you the full 15-20 seconds, in reality it does go by so fast that it is never a concern (again, sometimes it takes even less time). But truly, someone who is brand new to the trick and has just learned the secret, probably would take no more then 20 seconds to get the blisters at the MOST. As far as this timing goes, it really is up to the individual performer. You will get faster at getting the blisters, the more that you play with it. As they say, “No pain, no gain.” Again, this amount of time I truly believe is a small price to pay for the incredible “impromptuness” (is that a word?) effect that you get with “Third Degree Burn”. As always, if you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your time, and also thank you to those of you who sent such nice messages and were patient enough to wait! Best regards, Jason Palter Paltergeist Unlimited (416) 410-5766 |
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts |
Okay, let me chime in with my two cents, for whatever that's worth (at least two cents, I hope. Not sure what the current exchange rate is on my opinions).
I received this a couple of days ago and I will say that this is a very well-made gimmick. Very nice. And it's actually lighter than the Pyro Perception gimmick. On the instruction side, everything is covered in detail, but the DVD suffers from the same things that most magic DVDs suffer from: mediocre production value (terrible audio), cheesey music & voiceover (which I assume is meant to be "cool"; if the intent was to come across as hackneyed and ridiculous, then my apologies), and finally, over-explanation. I find these DVDs tedious in their exposition. Too many things are repeated. Just cover the basics. Once. If someone doesn't have enough common sense to "get it" (or, at the very least, use a rewind button) perhaps they shouldn't be doing this. Also, the "bonus" ideas that don't use fire... c'mon. Seriously? Again, if you haven't got the micron of creativity necessary to come up with a non-fire approach to this, then maybe you should be doing something else - like mail delivery in an office. This is not a bad trick. In fact, it's a good one, I think. You can fry people with it. No question. Ultimately, however, I believe Pyro Perception is better. And here's why: This is really a step backwards from Pyro Perception. Many will cry "foul" to that, but hear me out. It seems to be a step forward to magicians, but it is a step backward in terms of the audience perception, for these simple reasons: the dirty work takes longer (not really a big deal) and the card must first be named before being revealed. Now, while I am a big proponent of a chosen card being named prior to its subsequent revelation in order to mount suspense, in this particular case I feel that the antithesis is stronger. Yes, with Pyro Perception you must use a deck of cards. So what? There are many ways to force a card so that it is a merely "thought-of" card and this "fact" can be re-iterated throughout the procedure. This also eliminates almost all of the blistering time. You can begin forming the blister immediately... before the trick even begins if you want. No down time. Now, you may say that either of these would be remebered the same by a spectator, what with memory being so unreliable and all. Probably true since, unlike us, they won't be comparing the two side by side. As for me, I'll take the less-work, card-is-never-named approach. Again, 3rd Degree Burn is a great trick, but Pyro Perception is a better one. Advancements streamline an effect. I don't feel this is the case here. In terms of presentation you could argue that it streamlines by removing the necessity of a deck of cards. However, in terms of the work, it convolutes the trick. I might even go so far as to say that if you could simply have people think of and name things, why limit them to playing cards? But, if you're using a deck of cards, then it's understood that these are the boundaries within which you'll be working. Is a spectator going to raise this issue? Of course not. That doesn't make my point moot, though. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
It's all in the reflexes.
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da5id Loyal user Dublin, Ireland 268 Posts |
I was thinking this could be used as a universal out when doing card magic. Backup plan.
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sabitu Special user USA 533 Posts |
The card does not have to be named out loud before being revealed. I was actually planning on using my Outlaw Wallet and have the spectator write down their card instead of naming it. This way the card is merely "thought of" and it is never said out loud. You could also use a center tear or some other peek to achieve this.
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jfkkraemer Elite user SoCal 481 Posts |
Great idea, the materials are extremely well put together, you will have this a life time as stated, If you wear tight pants find somewhere else to keep it but I have yet to see anyone these days wearing anything remotely close to tight pants. It is a good fit in my jeans and dress pants. The instruction on how to prepare, practice and present is just fine. Like previously posted, it will take you 15 minutes to learn and practice, not 15 minutes to have the blister show up, please give me a break. I can achieve the effect in no more than five to eight seconds once you have used it and practiced with it. I would say if you can't take that amount of time to have a spectator concentrate along with some personalized patter you shouldn't be doing this. If you use a peak method then by the time the spec burns or rips the peak or for those who don't like the fire idea you will obviously have time and blisters on your hands. Jason you have a winner no matter how you slice it, well thought out and well made product, kudos to you as you have delivered what you promised.
Jeff K |
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Kevvy Special user 702 Posts |
I think CoinMan21 was kidding about taking 15 minutes to put the blisters on.
Thanks for the reviews. |
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