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Doc Magic
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Hey Brad funny thing is a lot of the decisions I make at work are life & death ones, but I don't ever get nervous about it. I find the reason for this is because I know the material so well. With magic it can be quite a different situation though. I do tend to get nervous and strongly agree with the point you made, that starting with an effect that you have down solid is the key. Getting started is the hard part, but once you’ve gotten into it and feel comfortable, it's generally smooth sailing from there (granted you've practiced enough). Thanks again for the great advice.
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Thanks a lot for posting this! I started shaking during a performance at my university earlier today and was wondering what the heck was happening...

I tried pausing for a moment and just letting my nerves stop rocking so hard but it's difficult in some ways because I'm a fast outgoing performer.

Anyway, this post has sure given me some things to think about and practice!

Thanks,
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Part of the fear comes from insecurity. I therefore never perform a new trick without adequate practice. That certainly helps.

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I know that one thing that causes me problems is that I am working out of my comfort zone.

Another, not so well addressed, is the fact that when you do a trick for someone, it involves some level of deceit, aka lying. This is not something that comes naturally to me. In fact, I feel guilty doing it. To add to this, some people I knew in my youth considered it the work of the devil and that I would go to hell for doing it. Talk about adding to the pressure.

I am working to overcome these obstacles. By doing more stuff in front of lay people, I am slowly learning to make the act of performing tricks part of my comfort zone. Also, while some deceit is part of the performance, I realize that in the grand scheme of things, it won't hurt anyone. At least I'm not trying to rob or hurt anybody. It can make others feel good and bring some pleasure into other people's lives as well as my own. In the end, that's really what it's all about. Smile
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On 2007-03-05 19:17, Andy the cardician wrote:
Part of the fear comes from insecurity. I therefore never perform a new trick without adequate practice. That certainly helps.

Andy


ok Sure and what about the other part? Smile

I'd take jaxxon s advice . Just think and say to urself ur the best performer out there. I got looser by it:)
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Hello,

As a former door to door salesman and sales manager, I had to get up in front of lots of different people, in all kinds of different situations. The best method I found to overcome the shakes was to keep imagining yourself in your best day, a day that everything just flowed threw you, that you did everything right and were happy before you walk in. By concentrating on all the positive feelings before you go in the fears and insecurities do not have a chance to build inside you. Keep reminding yourself that you are the most important person you'll ever know that you know what to do and say the people came to see you, your the expert.

I have known a lot of salesman who had great success with this technic, I hope it helps everyone here.

Good Luck

Gardini
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The only time I get the shakes is when I am performing close-up in front of other magicians. Otherwise, my shaky days seem long past. What helped me get through my shakes was to keep my hands in constant slow, fluid (tai-chi like) motion when they were not at my sides. The movement covered up any shakes.

I always made the moves seem necessary and a part of my routine or story, (not just waving my hands around like some sort of freak.) I ended up with so many comments on the graceful way I do magic! Now, when I see a magician that I mentored or trained in the magic shop I can see they use my smooth technique of graceful hand motion. It does look nice and just think: It was created to cover-up a pesky state of being!
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So it's been over a year now since I remember reading this note. I've got to thank you again for adding this. It's been great advice and it's helped a lot.
I don't think that I've struggled with this for a long while now.

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I would Like to thank Ron, Brad, Autumn Morningstar, etc for posting this, there are times especially when I am trying an effect for the very first time in front of non-family, and non-friends (AKA Captive audiences) that I get light headed, and shaky, hands quiver. It is awesome that people of your caliber come by here with all this welcomed input. Thanks Smile

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On 2006-05-09 15:23, Jaxon wrote:

· An extreme solution
This is a possible thing to try for those who have a very serious problem with nervousness. Why not build on your nervousness? Believe it or not this can actually help you overcome your nervousness. Just flat out tell your audience that you are nervous. Maybe even do an act based on it. I even know one guy who made a little gimmick that makes it look like he pee’d his pants. The simple fact that you tell them you’re nervous will make them wonder if it’s just part of the act. By the time they stop wondering you might not even be nervous anymore. Why not, we magicians are known for being “honest liars”. Smile



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I'll have to remember this one... Honest liars...I like that.
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I was going to make a topic about this, but then I spotted this one.


I've always been introverted, I avoid strangers, walk around with headphones on all day so I don't have to talk to people, etc.

Tried to change it some years back, jumped into Law Enforcement where I'd HAVE to interact with people daily. Relocated and had my son and now I'm doing hotel security, but still having to interact with people. I was awesome as a cop just never said more than I had to. When I worked in corrections, I was that quiet one. I can safely say...........its not getting any better. >_<

I only say just enough to get by, half the staff at work swore I was a mute for well over a month when I started. Now I'm supervisor and I have to talk with managers every day, but I do that in email form.
Started with magic about 6 months ago in hopes of forcing myself out of my shell to perform in front of strangers, to actually be social, funny, amazing. I can safely say.............that hasn't worked either.

I can laugh and perform no problems for my 3 friends and my husband, but the second they call someone else over, I just about run for it, fiddle with stuff, come up with some excuse to why I can't show anything. "Huh? Oh, my son is calling me!"
*runs*

Its frustrating honestly. There's obviously something wrong here besides a case of stage fright. O_o
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I got into magic some 20 years ago for the same reason as you. It hasn't gotten any better for me either. If you ever find something that works, let me know.
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Someone suggested whiskey to me, but I don't think that'll do it. O_o
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On 2008-05-22 18:17, GamingNinja wrote:
I was going to make a topic about this, but then I spotted this one.


I've always been introverted, I avoid strangers, walk around with headphones on all day so I don't have to talk to people, etc.

Tried to change it some years back, jumped into Law Enforcement where I'd HAVE to interact with people daily. Relocated and had my son and now I'm doing hotel security, but still having to interact with people. I was awesome as a cop just never said more than I had to. When I worked in corrections, I was that quiet one. I can safely say...........its not getting any better. >_<

I only say just enough to get by, half the staff at work swore I was a mute for well over a month when I started. Now I'm supervisor and I have to talk with managers every day, but I do that in email form.
Started with magic about 6 months ago in hopes of forcing myself out of my shell to perform in front of strangers, to actually be social, funny, amazing. I can safely say.............that hasn't worked either.

I can laugh and perform no problems for my 3 friends and my husband, but the second they call someone else over, I just about run for it, fiddle with stuff, come up with some excuse to why I can't show anything. "Huh? Oh, my son is calling me!"
*runs*

Its frustrating honestly. There's obviously something wrong here besides a case of stage fright. O_o
Sounds to me like you have Social Phobia. Being judge or scrutinized by anyone you're not comfortable with could trigger it. In this case, anyone other than your friends and husband. If you think you're alone, don't worry. About 13% of all people have suffered through it at some point in their life.

Trying performing for someone that you're acquainted with, but don't talk to as much as your friends or husband. Try setting up multiple opportunities to do so in case it doesn't work out the first time. Then work your way from there.
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Me personally, I NEVER got the shakes (been in the game since the 80's) I have brass Ba--s and have NO FEAR. When I walk into a room, I'm the baddest mofo there. That's what I believe. When I perform I have a crush, kill, destroy frame of mind. I don't have time to be nervous, I have a job to do, and so I concentrate and buckle down for the task at hand.

I've seen some of the biggest names in magic have shaky hands. When I see that, all I can think of; lack of confidence. It bothers me.

Ask yourself this; do MY hands shake when I’m around friends and family? Or when I’m in my comfort zone? If you answer NO to either question, then you will need more time to build up that same level of confidence before you perform.

Here’s one sure-fire way to cure the shakes:

Prepare
Do your homework
Know your PLAN
Dress nicely
SMILE
Be a REAL person

Fail in anyone of those areas and you will continue to shake.

Good luck
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I do all of the above and still get the shakes, especially if the host hesitates with the start of the show. I just want to get started.

But I'm the same in everything - sport as well. just want the whistle to go so I can start.
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I'll tell you one thing that's easily overlooked when it comes to the shakes. It's something I unfortunately didn't think about when I wrote the opening post in this discussion and I'd imagine it effect more people then they realize.

What I'm talking about is energy. More specifically eating enough food the day of the show. If you've ever been really hungry you know what I'm talking about. How your hands can start to shake. This can add to the shakes you might get from nervousness.

I can understand how this can happen because it's happened to me a couple of times. When I have a real big show and I'm a little jumpy in anticipation. I have a hard time eating. Or I have so many things to do in order to get ready I'd skip lunch or dinner. Then when it was show time I had the usual adrenaline rush but I also had a bit of the shakes. Not from nervousness but from lack of energy. But the fact that you feel you have the shakes brings on a bit of nervousness. So not having enough energy can have a huge effect.

So be sure to eat and get that energy the day of the show. It might even be the entire problem for some people who have a real issue with the shakes.

Oh and about the good advice that Justin just shared. If you do those things and you're still having a hard time. All you likely need is to keep doing it. Doing just about anything gets easier after a while. And don't take any small failures too seriously. Learn from them and just go at it again.

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