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Nick23 Special user England 582 Posts |
Ok... this actually looks quite painfull. What are peoples opinion of this?
Dis Jointed is a revolutionary new method for "Shinko's classic Arm Twist" that turns the screws on the scream factor. Dis Jointed gives you the freakish ability to twist your normal arm 360 degrees around with bone crunching sound. Then there's a heart stopping "pop" as you physically break your elbow at the joint! You then complete the dislocation by shoving your shoulder back into your arm socket. The freak-fest ends with one more 360 degree twist of your arm as your shocked spectators watch your bones snap back into place! Dis Jointed can be performed by anybody with normal body parts. No pre-set No hand switches Not misdirection No pain For the ultimate freak-out, perform Shinko's original arm twist first...and then drop them to their knees with Dis Jointed! Some freaks are born. Others are made. The best are...DIS JOINTED! http://www.murphysmagicsupplies.com/vide......DEO1.wmv
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teevtee Special user 963 Posts |
Other than the sound elements and the "break" I don't see any difference between this and the classic version. Am I missing something? The "break" while and interesting idea is certainly quite obvious what is being done (assuing you understand the method of the classic version) and the noise addition has been around for MANY years.
So to me this seems like the same trick that has been around for decades... but again, am I mising something? Don't get me wrong, I like the trick, just don't see anything new. |
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Nick23 Special user England 582 Posts |
Im familiar with the "classic" version, but this one doesn't seem to have any "preset". The video demo doesn't cut away from him standing to him putting his hand on the floor which is normally when the special something takes place.
Plus his hand is rotating clockwise, not anti-clockwise which is different from the classic version.
Nothing I do can't be done by a 10-year-old...with 15 years of practice."
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Raymond Singson Loyal user 259 Posts |
The reason the camera did not cut away was because the kid is twisting his arm in the opposite direction of the standard original...
I wasn't all that impressed with this effect to begin with, because I thought it actually [revealed] an illusion rather than made one. But now that I see people have are actually intrigued/amazed by it, I may have to start using this presentation... I think I'd prelude this version with the original, however. Twist my arm 360 degrees one way with a spectator beside me trying to copy my actions; then 720 degrees the other after the initial rotation... THEN break it and shove it all back into place... Yeah, that'd be killer. While I know the methods, I'll definitely have to pick this up for the subtleties to sell the illusion as convincingly as the demo portrays. Ray...
“The purpose of art is to lay bare the questions which have been hidden by the answers.” -- James Arthur Baldwin
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Jason Simonds Veteran user Pensacola, FL 318 Posts |
I am/used to be doublejointed in my elbow and shoulder and could turn my left arm 360 degrees. My right arm doesn't quite get 360 but gets close. When I bent my elbow it would bend like his break but without the noise. I had surgery about 2 months ago on the shoulder because of chronic dislocations so I'm not sure if I'll still be able to do that when I get fully healed. It looks funky in a short sleeve shirt.
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Brian Proctor Inner circle Somewhere 2325 Posts |
This effect looks so sick! I love it. I don't know how it is done, nor do I care. I just thought this was pretty impressive looking!
Brina |
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Joe Russell Veteran user Buffalo NY 397 Posts |
Hey guys
If you have any questions PM me (P.S It looks 10 times more sick in person)
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Phil C Special user Ontario, Canada 903 Posts |
How different is this from the original version?
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teevtee Special user 963 Posts |
I still don't see what is different from the orginal either. I mean I LIKE the effect but I feel like I am missing something.
One problem I have with the original (or this for that matter) is that most spectators just assume that you are some contortionist double jointed type of side show geek. They freak out for sure but they conclude not that it is magic but rather that you simply have a physical anomily. Somehow that is not as satisfying to me. |
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Joe Russell Veteran user Buffalo NY 397 Posts |
When I perform dis jointed it is always last, after the coins, cards, PK, metalism, ect. So my audiences know that I am a magician and asume that it is a magic trick. Now on the other hand their are some situations when I want people to think I'm a freak, then I will perform it along with a few geek acts like needle through arm or something to that nature, but I hardly do to many "freak" shows anymore.
Like all magic It depends on your presentation, the seldom magicians I taught it to up to its release had variouse presentations. One guy presented dis jointed as a comedy effect, and got amazing laughs. I perform it seriouse and get shreeking screams, so it all depends on what your character is. I hope this helped JR
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teevtee Special user 963 Posts |
Thanks for the thoughts Joe.
Can you help me understand the differences from the original version a bit more. I am sorry if I am being dense but I am somehow missing it. In your opinion is the main difference the sound and or break portion of the trick or are you starting out in a different position than the original if you know what I mean. |
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Joe Russell Veteran user Buffalo NY 397 Posts |
Completly different method than the original, infact I created this effect before ever learning about the Mehrir Yedid method, The real difference is the breaking arm part, but it also calls for no misdirection or sneaky moves like the original incase people aren't comfortable with the original switch, I'm sure if you wanted to combine it with the original you could, but I perform it almost like how you see it on the demo
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papawemba Special user 658 Posts |
Man it look much better than the "twisting arm" !!!
I would be scared to perform this Everyboy is able to do this !? Really excellent illusion... I am completely astonished. Nicolas |
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teevtee Special user 963 Posts |
Thank Joe:
I appreciate your thoughts and I am now intrigued! |
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Castle2369 Loyal user Boston, MA 207 Posts |
Joe Russell,
Thanks for commenting about your effect, I own & perform the original Meir Yedid version quite a bit actually. I will deffinately be purchasing Dis Jointed, this looks quite nice. Thanks Again for being creative & coming-up with this clever New-approach my friend. Cheers, Erick Castle
Creator of the Gallerian Bend
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Joe Russell Veteran user Buffalo NY 397 Posts |
Thanks a lot Erick, its my baby and I hope you will love it as much as I do
JR
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joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17462 Posts |
I'm still laughing at the demo.....Excellent presentation.... ..
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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learachel Elite user 446 Posts |
Is it difficult? no "pain"? can do it on a table?
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Joe Russell Veteran user Buffalo NY 397 Posts |
I almost always use a table or a bar stool, I usualy make the floor my last option (just because I hate when my hands get dirty)
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TheNightBringer89 Special user 766 Posts |
The suspense is killing me! I can't wait to recieve my copy.
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