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Michael Messing
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I bought some rechargeable 9V batteries and didn't have any luck with them in my wireless transmitter. It would die unexpectedly even though it still showed a charge when tested. I just assumed that at 8.4 volts, they justed didn't have enough voltage to withstand the power consumption of the transmitter.

The ones I bought do work well for powering my VSM iCue Duo so it wasn't a total loss. I use them all the time now instead of the AC adapter I bought for the iCue.

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They might improve the 9 volts. It took time to improve the AA batteries. Now the AA can be charged in 15 minutes with long usage.
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On 2006-05-22 09:23, Dynamike wrote:
They might improve the 9 volts. It took time to improve the AA batteries. Now the AA can be charged in 15 minutes with long usage.


Thanks, I may just keep buying the cheap ones for now. School season is over and Im not using the mic as much.
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The 2 for $1.00 Panasonic have never failed me- not even once!
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I use a Crate Limo and I love it! It will take a low impedence mike, without using an impedence matcher. It's small, light and recharges quickly.

You can still have some radio interference with a corded mike. It happened a few times when I used high impedence mikes. That's why I use a low impedence mike with shielded cables - I've had good luck with that.
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I'm the one who bought Todd's Florida magic pa system from him. How nice of him to sell it here on the Café because it was "cutting out", of course WITHOUT ever mentioning that fact when he sold it. Luckily I own a Fender passport system, and just bought a Peavey escort. When I was buying it, he said it worked great, he was just doing bigger shows.

Ethics.


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Brent:

I am confused- I was not aware that I sold you a Florida Magic PA. Is there something that I do not know about? I have one up for sale right now and have talked to several people about the system. I have told all of them that if they are looking for something for larger audiences, this is not the way to go. If they want something for smaller groups, I think it would be excellent.

As I stated above, some people have said that the Florida System cuts out and others say they have never had a problem. I think when I owned mine that it cut out because I was using it in school shows. For b-day parties and smaller venues, there seems to be no problem.

FYI- the one I currently have for sale was something that I traded for.

Sorry if I was misleading. I always want to be upfront and honest!
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I use the Florida system..the key for using it for large audiences...300-500 is to have it elevated off the floor. When I do indoor crowds this size ...yes, elementary schools...I elevate my sound system to about head height and it does quite well for voice only. I do not use the mics that it came with..I use a different wirely hand held w/ a gim crack. I have not had any cutting out since using this mic. I did before.

Speaker elevation is the key to getting the most from a small sound system.
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But with the Fla. system you're also paying for the wireless mic that it comes with.

The sound quality out of the Fla. system compared to a larger system of similar price is simply bad.

I would take Alan's advice and get the Crate Limo, a descent mic and a heavy duty speaker stand you will be miles and miles and miles ahead of the Fla. system. Plus, it will run on battery.
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This is great advice! However, some people like myself don't want to run wires, carry something that weighs a lot and requires 5-10 minutes to setup. I agree that a larger system is going to sound better but for someone like myself that likes to get in and out and not take 30 minutes sitting a show up, I don't like the option of carrying heavy sound stuff.

As magicians who work with props, I feel that we already have a lot of other stuff to carry in and set up. I like going the easy route. It's not that I am lazy but when you do as many shows as I do and you do this full time, your back starts to hurt after years of loading and unloading.

Again, I agree with what you said. A more professional system is going to sound better but it's also going to cost you more and weigh more.

I guess there are pro's and con's either direction.
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Yes, it does weigh a lot more. you're right.
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I've searched the Internet high and low for a link to Florida Magic Co. with no luck. I'd be grateful for a link.

Many thanks,

Rick
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Whoops! An obvious URL, not that I know! Thanks, Todd!
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I own a company that designs professional audio and lighting for live entertainment (concert, magic, etc...) and permanent installations and we are also dealers for most brands of pro audio gear and here are some tips from a pro:

1) ALWAYS use a fresh set of batteries in your wireless for each show.
2) ONLY use alkaline batteries for your wireless, the best are from Duracell, they have a line called "ProCell" that is what all major pro venues use.
3) Unless you need a system that runs entirely off of batteries, try to stay away from small "all in one" systems (like the Fender) they tend to be low powered and almost always have bad wireless systems
4) If you can afford it stick to UHF wireless mics, and choose one that the frequency can be changed if you have any interference. I recommend the Shure PGX, SLX, or ULXS models, they have all worked great for me on various jobs. I have never experienced drop outs with any of these models even at over 100 ft from the reciever.
5)Use speaker stands. If the sound is absorbed by the 1st 2 rows of audience it does you no good at all. Get the sound up and over the heads of the audience so it can travel to the back rows.
6) I recommend powered speakers for quick and easy setup. Most of us will not have a lot of time for setup and powered speakers make it very easy. Good Quality non powered speakers may be more powerful and sound better but they will be heavier, require more equipment to haul around, and take longer to setup.

Here is a recommended setup:
2 - JBL EON10 G2 speakers (or EON15 G2 for more volume and better low end)
1 - CD player/IPOD or your choice of playback device for music
1 - Shure PGX wireless mic with WL185 lapel mic or WH30 headset mic


You can plug both the CD/IPOD and wireless mic directly into the speaker and control the volume with the volume controls on the speaker.


Hopefully this will help you guys out. If you have any questions feel free to ask
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I just received my SOundTech 150 watts AL12 today and the sound quality is excellent. I bought a separate (accessory) wireless handheld mic with it and of course it is also excellent. There are so many options on this unit. THe EQ allows for good midranges. The remote for the built in CD player works like a TV remote. The sound tracks are illuminated and can be seen from a good distance.

Now I just don't know if I want to try out the headset mic ($80) after reading so many horror stories. I had one for my Hisonic and got the feed loss regularly.

The only thing negative so far from this system is the pullout handle for rolling the unit. It seems a bit flimsy.

Here is the link: https://www.audiolinks.com/tek9/tek9.asp......jqdokoe4
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Like Todd, I hate to travel heavy. Unlike TOdd, Im not that concerned about the audience thinking Im using something very cheap. ANy quality sound system is a bear to tote around to show after show. I may break my new system in Thurs but after that, I want to go back to using my portable 35 watt system with hand held wireless. My back aches just thinking about this.
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Candini,

Enjoy that new Soundtech!

Regan
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He ain't heavy, hes my brother. Not...it is heavy Regan!
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At last I found a good headset/lapel mic, my Soundtech mic is here!!!!! Well, no loss of feed or dropouts! I don't really like the headset as much so I attached my other head set from Hisonic and then the lapel mic! Both work! I didn't know you could do this?!

Also it used AA batteries!! I have plenty of rechargables!!
The only real CONS are:

1) the clip for the belt is sort of backwards for some reason. If I attach it like the other units, the controls are to the back. I assume it attaches to the beltloop so I got it fitted to it and it appears it is snug enough to stay.

CONS:

1) The headset mic didn't really fit well but I didn't know any headset mic would work until I tried my old Hisonic headset (and lapel mic)

2) No mute button.

I tell you I get near the AMP and no feedback!!!

So the Headset transmitter cost me under 90 dollars. And the entire PA unit with CD and remote built in was about $630. I have the handheld and the other mics now.
The handheld wireless uses a 9V battery.
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