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Paul Wingham Veteran user Rustington, South Coast, UK 365 Posts 
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Does anyone know of any suppliers of crooked gambling equipment. what I'm looking for is a gimmicked put and take game..... don't worry I'm not planning on giving up magic in favour of hustling I just want to extend the bunko booth part of my act any ideas for this and other stuff would be greatly appreciated.
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts
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I think put and take spinners are largely antique items these days.
I've seen them on eBay and on dealers sites for not outrageous dollars, although when you pay for them you'll definitely know you're paying for an antique item. Obviously the gaffed put and take spinners are rarer than the ungaffed ones, so you'll pay more still for a gaffed one. |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts
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I beleive these are pretty common and available via http://www.stevensmagic.com
What are you willing to spend?
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts
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Unfortunately, different supplier are good at making different items....Stevens has some good things which he re-sells. But, for more professional grade products try Cardsorcerer or better yet http://www.marked-cards.com for marked cards.
Note: The cheap Cardsorcerer products ($20-$50 range)leave a bit to be desired, but, his more expensive products ($70+) are OK from what I have heard and seen. All NU-CONcept products also work as advertised. Just like any product, you get a better buy and higher quality of you know who the good manufacturers are......buying poor quality knock offs may get you discouraged and worse yet "caught". Good dice can be found through 1-2 other sources which I don't feel comfortable exposing. If you PM me with a name of a supplier, I will offer an honest assesment.
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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Yes you can get them. How are you going to use the thing in your Bunco Booth? Do you do con man exposes?
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts
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This is a site I use for info on Put and Take.
http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/putandtake.htm That $50.00 price from Stevens Magic that Pete suggests is a great price for a gaffed top. I was thinking of the metal ones in my suggestion above, but the celuloid ones would work just fine for demo's. |
Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts
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I have a set of the Stevens tops. They're very well made, but at the moment unused. Since they're a "percentage" top I haven't yet found much use for them in a magic routine. Any tips or sources for routines would be appreciated.
Otherwise: Paul, if you're interested I have a set I'm not using. One clockwise, one counterclockwise, and one straight top.
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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts
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Has anyone ever been to this site?? they got a ton of cool crooked gambling equipment with pics and descriptions. A little pricey though... It still baffles me how perfectly square dice are cheaper than unbalanced (loaded)dice... http://www.gamblingcollectibles.com/
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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Yes, I've been to the site and I've bought stuff from him. He is a good guy, he knows a lot about gaffed stuff.
Why do you say that it's baffling that gaffed dice are more expensive than non-gaffed dice? Vandy
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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts
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There was also another site that I found a long time ago that was a site from asia, and it also had a ton of high tech gambling equipment, but I cant find the site... any help?
"Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face" Mike Tyson
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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On 2006-05-17 14:53, iamslow wrote: Sorry, no. I only purchase gaffed equipment made in the good old USA. 
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Paul Wingham Veteran user Rustington, South Coast, UK 365 Posts
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On 2006-05-17 09:29, Vandy Grift wrote: I nevver fooly expose anything especially the more magic type effecs like 3 card monte, I know a lot of people do this in there bunco booth. I tend to give the punters enough rope to hang themself. |
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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That's cool Paul. I wasn't trying to insinuate anything. I was just wondering how you would use it. Playing against the spectators? Like Dave said, most of the gaffed tops are percentage biased. So that you only gain an advantage in the long run. I'm not saying there aren't put/take tops that can't guarantee a certain result. Even the percentage ones give you a pretty strong advantage.
It will be different that's for sure. I've never seen anyone use one in a Bunco booth. Have fun! Vandy
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DirtySanchez New user Huntington Beach 4 Posts
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T.R King Co. in Los Angeles.
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts
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T.R King Co. in Los Angeles. There isn't a mention of put and take anywhere on this site? |
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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts
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On 2006-05-17 14:51, Vandy Grift wrote: Hi Vandy, I was talking about flats and miss spots, because it doesn't cost anymore to shave off more on one side or to change the spots when maufacturing for it to justify the jump in price...
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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I don't know if they do Put and Take. But I do know that they don't have everything they that do on the website. Some things you have to call and ask about, they may or may not do it.
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts
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On 2006-05-18 15:09, iamslow wrote: Is that right? Ok, I wasn't sure where you were coming from. Now I know. Thanks!
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DirtySanchez New user Huntington Beach 4 Posts
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On 2006-05-18 15:04, silverking wrote: You have to call and ask about one. |
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