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nairbles New user 92 Posts |
So I did the color monte to this girl and when it was done she was baffled and told me how she thought it worked... she was completely wrong but I told her that she "got me"... was this wrong? a buddy told me that because she thinks she knows how the trick works, she believes that much less in magic... do you all think that's true? I should've just said "it's magic" I guess
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DomKabala Inner circle I've grown old after diggin' holes for 2827 Posts |
Quote: Magic? In the hands of a "magician" magic is a form of entertainment. If a person thinks they know how a "trick" works, how can they believe that much less in magic, unless they do not understand that magic is entertainment and that Voodoo or Witchcraft is real? I don't think it's true.
On 2006-05-18 03:41, nairbles wrote: <<<<KRaZy4kardz>>>>
We don't stop playing when we grow old...we grow old when we stop playing.
God is enough, let go, let God. Gal 2:20 "Anything of value is not easily attained and those things which are easily attained are not of lasting value." |
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yachanin Inner circle Cleveland, OH 2105 Posts |
Hi Nairbles,
Unless the girl was quite young, it's hard to imagine she would have "believed in magic" before you did the trick. In the future when someone thinks they know how you did something and give an explanation, you might just say something like, "that's interesting... you might try that sometime," regardless of how close or far off the explanation. It is unlikely they will ever try it on their own. If they do, they will probably not be able to reproduce the effect anyway and be even more mystified. Regards, Steve
"Impossible? Your audience will think so..." TM
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Joey Stalin Inner circle Canada 1072 Posts |
I usually agree with the specs when they tell me they think that the cards change with temp.
-A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.
-It is easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them. -The secret impresses no one. The trick you use it for is everything. See you space cowboy... |
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magic123454321 Regular user 197 Posts |
Cow ****er
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DanielTyler New user New York 95 Posts |
Typically when this happens I hand the spectator the deck or the cards or whatever you're working with and say, "Oh great, show me and maybe I can give you some pointers..."
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andykershaw1974 New user 1 Post |
A post above caught my eye...
I particularly liked the phrase "that's interesting... you might try that sometime" in preference to either a) outright saying 'No - you're wrong' or b) asking them to demonstrate their supposed method. I believe that magic should be entertaining, and not confrontational or intentionally making subjects feel 'stupid' or 'daft' etc which a) and b) above may inadvertently do. "that's interesting... you might try that sometime," allows the subject to think that they're on the right lines, and allows you to progress to your next effect. If they do try their method sometime - they're then going to be reminded of how good your effect actually was! Just a thought! |
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MagicMan1957 Inner circle 1445 Posts |
I do think when someone starts trying to explain out loud how a trick works ( even if they are totally wrong about the method does not matter) it does somewhat ruin the wonder and moment of astonishment of the illusion for the spectators. It takes them out of the "wow that was fantastic and how could that have happened " mode into the "oh I see he just did this this and this to accomplish the effect".
That is why when that situation happens I quickly try to change the conversation direction with something like " if you liked that one, check this out" and do another trick. |
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Cody Fisher Special user 884 Posts |
I usually just smile and walk away. Gives them something to think about. I smile in a weird, mysterious way. I probably look kinda weird doing it though.
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Noel M Loyal user San Rafael. CA 208 Posts |
Any time someone says,"I know how you did that" or words to that effect, I use Don Alan's retort, "I think I did that very well, don't you?" It changes the tone, usually gets a laugh and you can move on.
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pradell Special user Alaska 560 Posts |
"I know how you did it" is a staple at all kid shows. So the retort is "I know how I did it too!" Or, "I know how I do all of my tricks!" What can they possibly say to that?
When I was starting out in magic I thought that people said this because either I goofed up the trick, it was easy to figure out (and therefore not a good trick) or they were correct. None of this normally is true. Generally people say these things because either they have no tact, need to say something because their egos won't allow them to be "fooled," or they simply want attention. By understanding why people say these things, we can choose not to get upset or self conscious and react poorly. Because sometimes people say these things just to get a rise out of you! If you give them what they want, i.e. negative attention, you will fuel the fire. So just laugh it off and move on. |
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Roland78 Special user Torino, Italy 567 Posts |
Some days ago I performed a trick for a group of 60 boys (not a card trick, a mentalism one). At the end one of them said: "I know how you did that" and I blinked to him and said with low voice, so that only he could hear: "So now we are 2... let's the other ones believe it's real magic". He was proud that he was the keeper of a magic secret, and he didn't tell it to the other boys. Later he told me how I did it. He was wrong. I didn't tell him if he was wrong or not, but I said him again to keep the secret for himself. It's not actually lying, right? Will I go to hell?
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cajmagic Loyal user Long Beach, California 235 Posts |
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On 2006-07-25 23:00, pradell wrote: Great answer - I'll remember this one I don't do kids shows - but it has occured (rarely) - usually I get "How did you do that - to which I give the usual answer: "Masterfully - its and Adverb".
Caj Brejtfus
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cajmagic Loyal user Long Beach, California 235 Posts |
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On 2006-05-18 03:41, nairbles wrote: I tell my wife that when I want to get her in the mood yes babe - you are right - you are always right
Caj Brejtfus
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jezza Elite user 469 Posts |
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On 2006-05-18 03:41, nairbles wrote: if you watch a film you know its special effects but still enjoy it ,its the same with magic (well that's my take on it) |
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gaafman Loyal user 248 Posts |
Yep I think most of the times that's true. As example I as a magician can enjoy performances of a good/simple magic trick (for example cut and restored rope) even though I know the secret. But it's more about the quality and patter of the trick that keeps it from beeing boring.
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joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17407 Posts |
I usually tell them beforehand to not try to figure it out, but to just enjoy the magic....As for kids, I like the Pradell quote above...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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cajmagic Loyal user Long Beach, California 235 Posts |
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On 2006-07-30 08:19, joseph wrote: and they never ever ever listen - do they
Caj Brejtfus
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joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17407 Posts |
No... ...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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Matt Malinas Inner circle Transylvania 1367 Posts |
Lol , great quote.
and to answer nairbles' question ,well I think you handled it good. you should start using that quote mentioned above -Matt
The masters make the rules, for the wise men and the fools
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