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The Bonnie Kids
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Guys,
then we close this digression.
I didn't want to tell you "look how good I am and look how bad you are", but for some reasons you got the message like that.
The art is not the french drop. It couldn't exist without it, but it has to go beyond it. In my opinion it is the ability to understand the audience in front of you, to misdirect it in such a way that they ar entertained, to pretend to etc. Much much more beyond the french drop. And I actually have to say that I STICK on that.
This does not minimize the importance (very big actually) of purists, because as I said, the art does not exist without the french drop (which is actually just one example).
I also didn't mean "good enough is good enough". Your audience decides what good enough is.
I fully respect your stand-point, but please just let me say mine. Or maybe I should let you continue the discussion among yourselves as I have nothing to contribute.
/ Andrea

".... I for one have never performed magic in public as an entertainer before (my first time at that will be this fall, when I'm taking part in a local arts festival), but when I practice, I hold myself to technical rigour....."

I wish you the best for you show!
abc
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Please excuse me for saying this but there is a different between defending the ethics of certain actions and being an intelectual purist and in my opinion this discussion has ventured into the latter.
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...they feel the right to copy and show the copied work to other magicians.

Then they feel the need to publish their copy just so they get credit.

And from that we get generations of magicians who are both clueless and using copied material. ...

The tragedy is that they also act like monkeys with their hand in the tree stump. They won't let go of the coconut and yet can't get away with the coconut. There is nothing wrong with being a monkey. The tragedy is they also want respect as people and as artists.

Like they said in "The Big Chill":

Michael: I don't know anyone who could get through the day without two or three juicy rationalizations. They're more important than sex.

Sam Weber: Ah, come on. Nothing's more important than sex.

Michael: Oh yeah? Ever gone a week without a rationalization?
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Did you watch the demo and then create your own way to perform the trick or did you watch a demo which taught the trick and then added or created from that?

If it was the 1st suggestion I would say it is ethical, happens all the time in industry called reverse engineering.
The art of a magician is to create wonder.
If we live with a sense of wonder, our lives
become filled with joy
-Doug Henning-
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