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BooRadley
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Just curious if there is a recommendation for the best stripper deck? I'm not experienced at card tricks, but have been getting requests and thought I'd try to get going with a stripper deck. My concern is that the standard Bicycle brand has a white border and that the "shave" might be pretty noticeable. Perhaps I'm worried over nothing, but thought I'd double check and see.
Recommendations?
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It's not really something that is easily seen.
I like to cut my own decks, which give me the option of sorting through the deck to get all the wide margins on the side to be trimmed.
After re-rounding the corners, it's impossible to see the trim.

A pitch deck that's been trimmed on the narrow margin, and hasn't had its corners re-rounded is the one you want to stay away from for serious use.
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There's a factory made Bicycle Stripper Deck with rounded corners that has been sold on one of the auction sites for $4.95. I bought a couple and they're actually pretty good and certainly worth the asking price.
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BooRadley,
Trust me know one will ever see the difference. Most laymen do not even know a stripper deck exists let alone seeing the shaved sides. I have a stripper deck at home that has the short (top & bottom) sides shaved. I have no idea where they came from and I never tried using them..Just use them with all the confidence in the world...
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The best stripper deck I've found is the one I made for myself. You can get a 5x7 size print trimmer for about $10 at most office or photo supply stores. Corner rounding is still a hassle though...

This way I can custom make narrow decks, side stripped, end stripped, belly stripped, etc... as needed. Making up multiple "sets" of stripped cards all out of the same stock means I can mix and match any combination I like.
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Cards by Martin makes a few different types.
Fine, medium or deep cut. End or Side-cut.

I have a deck that I believe is a fine cut.
Not real easy for me to get the feel for this.
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I prefer the Bicycle made stripper deck. There's no hassle in making it myself. Always using Bicycle brand cards allows me to switch it for another deck if I really have to. Your audience is NEVER going to know the difference though - even with the cheapest stripper deck you can find. Just act like you know exactly what you're doing and the deck isn't important - they'll be impressed by YOU!
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Boo... you say you are not experienced with cards... MY SUGGESTION... don't mess with gaffed cards. Learn to do the basic handling and get comfortable with cards first.
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Your audience is NEVER going to know the difference though - even with the cheapest stripper deck you can find.

Without the corners re-rounded and on a no-name bridge stock you pretty much scream "magic deck".

With high quality Bicycle stock available for between $10.00 and $15.00, it may be unwise to reccomend a $2.00 deck to a beginner who was considering adding a Svengali effect to their budding routine.

Of course a good carpenter never blames their tools, but then a good carpenter never uses a $2.00 hammer from the Dollar Store!
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I love the USPCC hindu strippers. Theyre cut on both sides and their gaff is very subtle. Very nice. I managed to give the joker back in a book. I'd been using it as a bookmark and the guy I lent it off gave it me back but never noticed the cut. He said he'd been wondering why there was an angel on a bicycle but he never noticed the cut.

Im new here by the way. Hello.

Oh by the way they come sealed so you can genuinly take out a new deck and unwrap it.
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Your audience is NEVER going to know the difference though - even with the cheapest stripper deck you can find.

Without the corners re-rounded and on a no-name bridge stock you pretty much scream "magic deck".

With high quality Bicycle stock available for between $10.00 and $15.00, it may be unwise to reccomend a $2.00 deck to a beginner who was considering adding a Svengali effect to their budding routine.

Of course a good carpenter never blames their tools, but then a good carpenter never uses a $2.00 hammer from the Dollar Store!

That $4.95 Bicycle deck factory made, printed and cut with rounded corners and delivered in a factory sealed package is looking better all the time... Smile
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A true fine-cut stripper can't be pulled by a beginner without practice, and therefore will be far less likely to be noticed if your routine involves the spec handling the deck.

The Bicycle factory decks are nice for what they are, and what they cost. But realize that you're getting the heaviest trim, easily seen by anybody bothering to look.
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On 2006-06-14 01:38, silverking wrote:
The Bicycle factory decks are nice for what they are, and what they cost. But realize that you're getting the heaviest trim, easily seen by anybody bothering to look.

I'm sorry but no offence like but I cant really agree with this. I'm sat looking at a deck now and because its got half its cut on one side half on the other its dead subtle. It cant be more than half a mm in total! I don't think its heavy at all.
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I agree with Pete's recommendation that you also invest in a few ungaffed decks of cards and learn a few basic sleights -- this will pay much bigger dividends in the long run. The classic "Royal Road to Card Magic" is available in hardcover at a great price, click HERE for more info.

But if you must buy a gaffed deck, my own opinion is that a Svengali Deck will give you much more bang for your buck. You can get a Svengali Deck in Bicycle stock, use a good deck switch, and no one will be the wiser. While you're at it, get two Svengali decks so that you can vary the force card. SETH
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Appreciate the responses. I got a Bicycle deck...I'm really surprised at how subtle the shave is on these. When I first got them, I was sure there was some sort of mistake because I certainly couldn't see any difference. But with a light touch, sure enough you can pull it out. I'm sort of amazed. I expected (hoped?) for more of a grip to be available. Not sure how in the world you could separate blacks and reds in one motion...seems impossible to me at this point. Must be magic.

Thanks for all your input. I agree learning to work with an ungaffed deck is what ultimately needs to be done...I'm looking at this as "training wheels" while I become proficient with real decks. A crutch until I can walk on my own.

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I think the bikes stripper are very good. for me at least, they worked great and of course look like your decks you are using in general.

@dave vanVranken: in how much your cards are different? I'd like to test them once. I sn't a cut a cut?
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I have some belly strippers from a real cheat friend and I can't get 'em to work for my clumsy fingers... so fine I can't get them (the aces) out.
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If anybody thinks that the Bicycle Strippers are anything close to a fine cut, you haven't yet seen a true fine cut!

If you can pull them on the first or second try, they're a medium or heavy trim.

A fine cut stripper is a thing of beauty, you can examine the deck with a magnifying glass and not see anything at all, but with experience you can pull the stripped cards in an instant.

The spec could try all day and not be able to pull a single card.

Stripper decks with this fine a trim are NOT available from Bicycle!

I'm not saying you can't enjoy your Bicycle stripper deck, it's probably one of the nicest stripper decks around for under $10.00.
What I am saying is that a fine stripper deck, cut by somebody who knows what they're doing for around $30.00 or $40.00 is something entirely different than anything you're going to find for sale off the shelf.
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On 2006-06-16 13:12, Memory-Jah wrote:
@dave vanVranken: in how much your cards are different? I'd like to test them once. Isn't a cut a cut?


I think silverking just answered your "Isn't a cut a cut?" question. I'm not saying I'm the best cutter there is, but I can do a bit better job than the Dollar Store specials. Sometimes just careful deck selection helps. If the backs are printed a little off center, I can shave one side and the stripped cards look even better than the non-stripped ones.

I just like doing them myself so I can do a variety of cuts. I don't have to limit myself to just a "Four Ace" trick. I can swap cards between different deck cuts and strip out a Royal or any other combination I like. That's the biggest difference right there. Rather than having a single stripper deck, I have a four deck set, carefully selected so they all match each other.
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On 2006-06-10 12:19, Pete Biro wrote:
Boo... you say you are not experienced with cards... MY SUGGESTION... don't mess with gaffed cards. Learn to do the basic handling and get comfortable with cards first.


I second mr biro's oppinion.
if you still want a stripper , I have a red bicycle and I never had anyone notice anything. and many times I even handed it out for them to examine it if they wanted to.
don't worry about that.

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