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Paul H Inner circle UK South Coast 1135 Posts |
Hi Neomagic,
Actually, I did'nt know about this use of the lift overhand shuffle. Its an excellent idea. Many thanks for tipping this. The only drawback is another gruelling session in front of the practice mirror burning the midnight oil. Best Regards, Paul H |
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James Alan Special user Toronto, Ontario 680 Posts |
I that Darwin Ortiz is definitely right about one thing. You should try different methods and see which one suits you best. When Vernon said be natural, he meant what is natural for YOU.
Personally, when I do genuine overhand shuffles, they tend to start out very neat with single cards and/or small packets and as I continue to the end get messier and messier. My jog shuffle looks pretty much the same, the first packet to drop is between 1 and 3 cards and they get bigger and bigger. If you want to choose the best method, sit in front of a video camera or your webcam and tape yourself doing real overhand shuffles for five or six minutes straight. Then watch the tape carefully and remember that's what your jog shuffle has to look like. Best, James |
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ASW Inner circle 1879 Posts |
Since Darwin was responding to a guy referring to comments I made on my video, can I say something? I didn't find Darwin's view arrogant. He was expressing his opinion, and he's entitled to it. The fact is, sometimes you have to run a single card to mark off a run, etc, and that can be deceptive. I've seen Darwin do shows and it's no surprise that his technique is deceptive.
On my (accursed) video I was thinking about the dozens and dozens of magicians I had seen who mark off a stock with a single card that is injogged so far, they might as well be waving a flag that says, "ACME card control". I was not thinking of Darwin or the many other great magicians (like Vernon, Dingle, Miller, etc, etc) who have had full mastery of such sleights and used fine in and out jogs. Besides, in the end, I'm a hobbyist who was talked into doing a video (which I very much regret for a whole range of reasons) and Ortiz is a pro who has made his living with a pack of cards for over thirty five years and written some of the greatest magic books of the last quarter century. You be the judge.
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scorch Inner circle 1480 Posts |
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On 2006-06-11 13:37, Top Hat wrote: I never "highlighted" any such "lack of ability," in fact I emphasized that I would agree that he is a brilliant technician. I did point out that he's a rather dull performer, at least from what I've seen. And that's my opinion that I'm entitled to, thank you. You and others seem to think that because he's a famous card magician and a brilliant technician therefore I shouldn't have anything critical to say at all about anything he says. The injog shuffle is a very basic, fundamental sleight, and getting it right to a level of detail is certainly a worthwhile pursuit in my opinion, and I just differ with Ortiz on that. I know if somebody asked me about it, I'd at least consider their curiosity and not dismiss it offhand, which is way I said his statement "bordered on arrogance." I will even go so far as to say that it it "borders on" hypocrisy, coming from somebody who is so famously devoted to practicing sleight of hand, to the point that he brags about how much he practices on his website. To emphasize sleight of hand so much on the one hand with your own work, and to dismiss somebody else's concerns as being unworthy of consideration, yeah that "borders on arrogance." If you need a definition as to what "borders on" means, we can go into it, but for the life of me I can't see how or why some of you guys make a controversy over any little petty thing. You sure like your tempests in the teapots around here. |
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Paul H Inner circle UK South Coast 1135 Posts |
Oh for heavens sake Andrew, pull yourself together man. If I hear you slander your excellent video again I shall consign you to a desk in the middle of the embassy compound at noon scribing 100 lines of 'I must not be beastly about my work'.
With regard to Darwin Ortiz, I too think he is hugely creative and he has written some of the best magic books this century. However, performing with 'charisma' is probably the most difficult sleight of all time. If you think about it, there are some notable technically brilliant magicians and cardicians who are not that great when it comes to performance style. On the other hand I've seen a poor to mediocre (at best) magi slay an audience with great presentation and personality. Even the manic, fast paced and wittily 'larger than life' Mr Malone who also happens to be technically skilled doesn't appeal to all audiences. In the scheme of things, Darwin's performance is engaging, not perfect with a few dry spots but engaging nonetheless and his technical ability is superb. Regards, Paul H |
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