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Gary Kosnitzky Elite user 409 Posts |
Harry,
The first cups used for the Hindu Cups and Balls were Coconut. They can not be easily mass produced so you will not see them in action on the streets of India. Coconut shell is what Shankar Jr. used when he performed. Ganesh made his. Unless a practitioner has his cups custom made you will only see these inexpensive makeshift cups or bowls. I am the first person who has ever undertaken mass producing coconut cups. It is a very difficult and tedious job, when it is not raining. Every coconut is a different size and shape. I require one whole coconut to make one cup. The cups must all be a certain size or they won't work. I had 3 men go into the jungle and closely examine and measure 30,000 coconuts to find the right size ones. This took 9 months. I was only able to make a few hundred sets from those 30,000 coconuts. I have not even finished my website nor started advertising and they are going fast. Get a set now before it's too late.If you snooze you lose. All those who buy sets now will also have books set aside for them when they are released, so you definitely will not be shut out. Harry, When you learn all the 'work' you will understand why Coconut shell is an excellent medium to use. I have found it's hard to find a photo over a hundred years old of Hindu Cups and Balls that are not coconut cups. Here are a few old photos: http://s1093.photobucket.com/albums/i427/jadoosmagic/ If you can already sit comfortably in Half Lotus then you conquered the hardest part. The rest is all downhill. Join me in the Hindu Cups and Balls revolution, Gary Kosnitzky |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Maharajdemagic. Unfortunately, since my stroke, I can no longer palm or load the balls in the traditional Indian way. Never could sit on the floor either. That's why I haven't been able to make any video.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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maharajademagia Regular user 127 Posts |
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On 2011-11-06 12:52, Pete Biro wrote: Pete what a pity! All that experience would be lost to lesser mortals like me. Take care and thanks for the reply. |
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maharajademagia Regular user 127 Posts |
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On 2011-11-06 09:02, Harry Murphy wrote: Harry, I have never seen 5 cups being used, but you are right earlier 4 cups were used. These then came down to 3 and if you happen to visit India now only two cups are used. As I mentioned in my earlier post any cups can be used, but as Gary said the Indian street magicians use what ever they can lay their hands on . Original coconut cups or later turned wood cups or even metal cups are not available to them, they cannot order a minimum of say 100 or 200 pieces to later use only three and normally they don't sell material or explain the method. It would be nice if you can do your version sitting on a table and a chair with the video kept high up so that there is no angle problem. Once I learn a little more I would put my version here as well, but before I do that I what Gary to dive me classes. |
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maharajademagia Regular user 127 Posts |
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On 2011-11-06 12:39, Gary Kosnitzky wrote: It really surprises me how the American and Western find half lotus the most difficult thing in the Hindu Cups and Balls. When we were young that's how we sat and ate and even studied. Not that there were no furniture at home but that was the traditional way. A mat and on the floor. For all religious things we still do. You could not get married in India if you cannot sit crossed legged for three hours, I guess that's what keeps western men from marring Indian girls. |
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