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LBP MAGIC Veteran user 374 Posts |
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On 2006-07-08 12:58, evolve629 wrote: That is what I was saying. Outside of having someone point it out to you what would you do? |
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ChristopherM Special user UK 844 Posts |
You could do the Pre-Tie as detailed by Jay Noblezada in the STS DVD. It basically means you can approach the audience with your shoelaces tied, undo your lace in front of them, then immediately tie the lace again! It means you don't need to wait for the moment it gets pointed out, and that everyone will know exactly where to look for the effect. For me, I think this effect's Unique Selling Point, however, has to be the fact that it's a real-world problem solved - tying one's laces is a common, 'necessary evil' task. The uniqueness also lies in the fact that the spectator comes up with the perfect lead-in to the effect as well - check out Darwin Ortiz' Strong Magic for a look at Prepared Ad-Libs - the fact is, it WILL be pointed out, and you come up with the magical goods to address the remark!
Cheers Chris |
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alex_is_king_of_magic New user 12 Posts |
This effect definitely looks good
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juggling1 Regular user Las Vegas 196 Posts |
I think I might have an idea how this effect works but one thing I would like to know before I purchase it is if it has to be an openner or can it be perormmed anytimethrough out your show with ease.
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djrdjr Loyal user Austin, TX 226 Posts |
Definitely does not have to be an opener, Jug.
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Steve V Inner circle Northern California 1878 Posts |
It would make a wonderful opener. Actually I think it wouldn't fit in any other part of a stand up show.
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themysteriousone New user 51 Posts |
STS is really nice, I perform it alot. I really get good reactions from people, some people even want to see it again, and when I tell them they just saw it and I am not doing it again, then they go around telling others how my shoelace just tied itself. So it works out good for me. Also remember some people will make the story bigger then it actually is when they are telling someone else, so if you perform it for a couple people just let them go around and tell everyone else, then your name gets spread around, and next time you perform the effect it is stronger. I would recommend STS to others, it was well worth the purchase.
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Matt Malinas Inner circle Transylvania 1367 Posts |
It's a great opener.
I did it on a terrace for a guy who noticed my untied shoelace and mentioned it. there were maybe six other people sitting at the table next to me and they all saw me performing it. it was awesome. they started flipping and kept asking me to show them more and more. people seem to really like this effect. it is easy and very visual. about the noisy part...well , I gave up using the gimmick and I use a more "manual" version. it works better for me. -Matt
The masters make the rules, for the wise men and the fools
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djrdjr Loyal user Austin, TX 226 Posts |
I agree it would make a great opener. Sorry if I misconstrued the question. I thought Jug was asking if, technically, it HAD to be the opener.
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Steve V Inner circle Northern California 1878 Posts |
It doesn't have to be but let us be realistic. If not an opener then he would have to either hope no one notices his shoe is untied (walk out with it untied and 98% of the time someone will say something so you don't trip) or in the middle of his show, assuming he does a legit show, he bends over and sets up in front of everyone.
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ChristopherM Special user UK 844 Posts |
That's right Steve, you're dead-on. It needs either to be a 'forced' set-up, where the spectator, early-on in the set (most probably as soon as they see you) mentions it, or with the Pre-Tie idea, where you can lead into it yourself by undoing your lace then making it tie itself magically again. It all depends on how you want it to be perceived - seemingly impromptu, or a display of your 'sleight of foot' (!), or something you do to magically solve the hassle of the 'Common Problem' (see Strong Magic by Darwin Ortiz), or the new way you learned to tie your laces since you've grown up. Or so on....
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djrdjr Loyal user Austin, TX 226 Posts |
Or you could "notice" halfway through your performance that it's untied and tie it. Unless someone points it out at the beginning of your set, that's what you're going to be doing anyway (just at the beginning of your show instead of the middle). Ideally it's an opener, technically it can be done anytime.
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roham92 Regular user 173 Posts |
Well the noise is very brief and the loudness of the noise sometiems depends on the brand of your gimmick, I know some that are a lot quiter than others but as others in the post have said there will usualyl be noise were you perfrom this so it shouldnt be too big of a problem and just usea good loud patter during the routien and you should be fine.
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Dolphin Regular user Slovenia 171 Posts |
OK just recieved my STS and went on using it right away...
At first I also had a noise problem, but I found out that if you move your leg around enaugh, the noise of your trousers covers the noise of the gimmick and the fabric also slows it down. OK I know the effect does not have the same impact on the magicians as it has on the laymen...but we perform and entertain not for magicians but for laymen. and when it comes to them a had only jawdropping reactions. Regards |
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-=Ralph=- Regular user New York 111 Posts |
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On 2006-07-24 07:08, Dolphin wrote: That depends on the layman. I showed a video of Jay N performing the STS to 4 of my co-workers and they all figured out how the trick was done. I'll go against the grain and say that although it is a great trick, It is not to tough to figure out and there will be layman who will figure it out. |
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Steve V Inner circle Northern California 1878 Posts |
You are suppose to cover the noise by looking at the spec and saying "self tying shoe lace...BOO!".
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ChristopherM Special user UK 844 Posts |
Ha ha! Nice one, Steve! Although the person who released this effect may have a patent pending on that line....
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Buzz New user 29 Posts |
Hello, anyone know if its can be used on work boots, black boots and those heavy black round laces ? Thanks, Buzz
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Matt Malinas Inner circle Transylvania 1367 Posts |
You should have no problem with that.
I never tried it but I don't see why not. -Matt
The masters make the rules, for the wise men and the fools
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Jake12 New user 27 Posts |
I've had this trick for half a year. I'm a kid so it really freaks people out. For the loudness of the gimmick I just keep taping the shoe with the gimmick on a wall or something to die down the sound at the same time I perform it.
There are three stages in a magician's career.
"Who is he?" "There he is!" and "My god is he still around?" |
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