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Jaypoc New user 59 Posts |
Coin through cigarette
I was going to post a thread asking for assistance "re-banding" my cigarette through quarter but I seem to have lost it, so I guess I'll be replacing it soon. I'd like to know which version of it I should look into. The one I had was VERY angle sensitive as the gimmick took up more than half the quarter, but could be displayed before and after the cig was penetrated/removed. Are there some CTQ gimmicks that are better than others, or are they all pretty much the same? |
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Jeff Corn Inner circle Las Vegas 1190 Posts |
Go with the Johnson coin. You will never have to replace a band because there isn't one. It's also almost seamless. To top it off, it's guaranteed for life. If it wears out, they'll send you a new one.
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
I agree to much hassle and not worth it. I love the Johnson one. And I have had almost all of them.
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Corey Harris Inner circle Kansas City, MO 1229 Posts |
The only Johnson gaff coin I use is a Cig thru half. I would go that route.
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gfcal Regular user 118 Posts |
I agree that the Johnson coin is the way to go (although it's getting harder and harder to do any cigerette effects these days).
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Red Von Loyal user Branson, MO 251 Posts |
The "Johnson Coin" Is money well spent!
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ChrixF New user 54 Posts |
Yea I agree, go for the Johnson.
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Jaypoc New user 59 Posts |
I stopped in for it, but they were sold out. doh! I'll head back or head into the city and pick it up at Tannens or Fantasma.
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bloodkin Special user 646 Posts |
Is the Johnson one the single faced coin? If so, it's the one I've had and used for 16 years.
I recently got Belanger's version. I like it but went pack to the other gimmick. On a side note, I highly reccomend Derren Brown's handling. Just brilliant. And if you can't find a smoker, a bic ben works just as nice. |
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Mobius303 Inner circle Lakewood, Ohio 1309 Posts |
I also enjoy Derrick Dingle's version. It takes all the heat off.
Johnson's is a single faced coin. Mobius |
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Jaypoc New user 59 Posts |
Hmm The one I used to have was double-faced. and VERY well done, even under somewhat close inspection, you couldn't tell it was a gaff looking right at it held in an open palm and then flipped over. Both sides could be seen in their entirety and then the coin/pen pushed right through/visually. The only down side is that you had to watch the angles once the coin was penetrated.
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tbaer Inner circle Pennsylvania 2003 Posts |
Bloodkin, the bic pen is what I use, the round kind, it fits perfectly.
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**Roper** Regular user Houston 179 Posts |
Just to reiterate the description of the Johnson coin, it uses a spring instead of a rubber band.
In my opinion David Williamson has one of the best handlings. His routine is similar to Michael Ammar’s but the switch at the end is different. It is an absolutely beautiful handling for the pen or cig through the quarter. You can find the routine in Slight of Dave Two DVD. |
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Sleightly_Done New user Danville, KY 77 Posts |
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On 2006-07-11 18:29, Jaypoc wrote: Those are the one's that use rubber bands. They look nice, but are just not practical over the long run. In my experience, the bands just don't hold up and they end up being a maintenance issue you add to your list. I'm with seemingly everyone else on this list..... Johnson is the way. |
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bloodkin Special user 646 Posts |
Yah, I had looked into the double faced version but was advised the same thing. They just don't hold up well.
BTW, Derren's version is in Pure Effect. It uses the Johnson version but is very bold and works like a charm. Highly reccomend it. |
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mike gallo Inner circle 1341 Posts |
I still prefer the Paul Bellenger (SP) cig thru quarter the best.
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
The Belanger type coin is great!
Problem free and examinable from both sides. I've used this idea with different coins and things like toothpicks, swizzle sticks and such. I also have Johnson type which is more visual. |
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Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4665 Posts |
If you have the Johnson version, you can do my effect from the June '05 issue of Genii - its a more practical idea than using a cigarette, politically correct, and great for table hopping.
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mike gallo Inner circle 1341 Posts |
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On 2006-07-13 21:02, Michael Rubinstein wrote: I'll Second that! Mike |
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Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
I highly recommend the Johnson coin. The idea that you need a gaff that can be shown on both sides is illogical in the context of the routine. Consider that you 'borrow' a quarter from someone. By definition the coin is 'normal'. By the time you have penetrated the quarter and then undone the damage what the audience is left with can be looked at all they wish.
It is frequently a problem when balancing a routine that we try to prove 'too much'. Prove that something is TOO normal, etc. The entire strength of borrowing a prop is that it illiminates much of the 'proofing' that is needed for other routines. Best,
Brad Burt
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