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Margarette
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So, guys, my conclusion from what you say is that I'm just in the wrong place and meeting the wrong men! Maybe it IS me that is intimidating to these men. Referring to the "big ta-tas, small brains" comment...well, I have never gone under the knife, but let's just say I'm not lacking in that department. Maybe they think that when they talk with me I'll be spouting off the latest in celebrity gossip, not current events or the latest Tom Clancy novel and actually have some understanding of the technical nature of how he writes (Danielle Steele maybe, not Tom Clancy). As for dating only magicians....well, I tried that...I was wanting a relationship, they viewed it as a competition!
By no means do I flaunt my education, but if the subject is brought up, I won't lie about it. Just this afternoon, I took my younger son to his weekly YUgioh tournament, and I stayed there talking with the man who owns the shop. He asked what I did for a living, and I told him I was in the construction industry (didn't even say I was assistant project manager for a general contractor). Immediately, he asked what type of degree I had, and I told him. His response..."cool!" I can talk with the ladies in the front office about what is the best chocolate chip cookie recipe or problems with kids, and I can also discuss construction techniques with the other project managers. However, when a problem develops with a sub-contractor, I find that I, in the capacity of being in charge of the project, can tell them they need to do something, and I get ignored, but my boss can say the exact same thing, and the contractor does something.
I have never been one to pretend I'm something I'm not. I'm the proverbial "what you see is what you get." One time in my life did I pretend to be something I'm not, and it left me not feeling very good about myself. I vowed never to do that again!
So, maybe I need to head further up north, to Texas, or to the west coast! Smile

Margarette


Posted: Jul 22, 2006 10:08pm
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On 2006-07-21 19:09, Bill Palmer wrote:
Since I actually know Margarette, and she is now the adopted mother of one of my former ventriloquist figures...

...and he likes his new home in Memphis. He has a shelf all to himself and doesn't have to share with Sammy, now!

Margarette
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Josh the Superfluous
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Another vote for smart women, from a northern geeky guy. I think, if I could stay single for any length of time, an airhead would be fun. But the thought of a long term relationship with one, has been enough to steer me clear.

BTW I've read many of your posts regarding your work situation, and I've always thought of you as mentally attractive. So we do exist. I divorced my first wife, on good terms. She was from the south and wanted to get in touch with her roots. She moved to (of all places) Memphis. I went to check it out and have never been surrounded by so many close minded individuals. At the time my hair was bleached blond. In my early 30s, I was called a fag at the mall and had a car full of adults point and laugh at me on the expressway. I loved my wife, but we divorced because I couldn't live there. Move north young woman.
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Lemme tell you something. I knew a young lady from Texas who had red hair and magnificant, god given, should legally be allowed to be exposed, ta'tas and she also was an amazingly bright girl who last I heard was in law school or something like that.
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On 2006-07-22 22:06, Margarette wrote:
As for dating only magicians....well, I tried that...I was wanting a relationship, they viewed it as a competition!

Worked for the Pendragons. Worked for Seigfried and Roy. Could still work for you!
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On 2006-07-21 13:06, Margarette wrote:
is it just the men where I live...?

Margarette


Those weren't MEN, Margarette.
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On 2006-07-21 14:47, Steve V wrote:
Some fellows have a "I'm da man...I'z bring home da bacon, you'z fry it in da pan" mentality (and often worse).


Good perspective modern butch man. Smile Well at least an intelligent one. Modern, butch, and smarts. I agree with Steve that the guy with the attitude that she needs to be at home, bare foot, and taking care of babies is well, I wont' comment.

Instead I tell you that a friend of mine's brother was married in a very romantic garden setting complete with horse carriage. I was there and a year later noticed the strained couple falling apart. She completed her last year of college and got a job at a bank. By the way, she held two different jobs to pay for that last year of college cash. Keep in mind she took the lowest paying teller job but was willing to continue her education and work her way up. Two years later, she was continuing her studies and did work her way up and was making far more than he was. The fourth year I found out they had divorced. His brother told me one of the last arguments they had revolved around "the understanding" (his words and not hers) that she would be a stay at home mom! She flipped out and asked who he was! LOL!

He not only underestimated her but was clearly threatened by her progressive nature. He was a spineless coward in the face of her achievement. I mean all the poor gal did was get an education and work hard to compete with men in a corporate setting. How can you put her down for that?

In short, she was married to an idiot. Margarette, never go near a looser like that. They not only treat a good relationship badly, but they make ALL good men look bad.
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Maybe for other fellas. But for me, I wanted an educated wife.

I love sharing discussions with my wife. She makes me think about new things and new ideas. I look at things in different ways. Usually we agree although there is the rare occassion that I'm right and she's wrong. ;-) (ouch. she just smacked me)

I think all guys should get a smart woman. The fact is eventually the "physical" parts of the relationship can go away, and at that point, you'd better be able to talk to each other or the golden years are gonna be friggen boring.

Or so I picture. I'm only 27.

Robert
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Instead I tell you that a friend of mine's brother was married in a very romantic garden setting complete with horse carriage. I was there and a year later noticed the strained couple falling apart. She completed her last year of college and got a job at a bank. By the way, she held two different jobs to pay for that last year of college cash. Keep in mind she took the lowest paying teller job but was willing to continue her education and work her way up. Two years later, she was continuing her studies and did work her way up and was making far more than he was. The fourth year I found out they had divorced. His brother told me one of the last arguments they had revolved around "the understanding" (his words and not hers) that she would be a stay at home mom! She flipped out and asked who he was! LOL!

He not only underestimated her but was clearly threatened by her progressive nature. He was a spineless coward in the face of her achievement. I mean all the poor gal did was get an education and work hard to compete with men in a corporate setting. How can you put her down for that?

In short, she was married to an idiot. Margarette, never go near a looser like that. They not only treat a good relationship badly, but they make ALL good men look bad.


Sort of depends whether there was, in fact, an understanding or not, and what it was, don't it? There's nothing wrong with being a stay-at-home mom, if that's what someone wants to do. So maybe he was a "spineless coward" who was "threatened by her progressive nature," but maybe she told him she wanted one thing, then after they got married, she changed her mind and decided she wanted something else, in which case, for my money, it's on her. If a parent (or future parent) wants a parent at home to look after the kids for X number of years, there's nothing inherently wrong with that; it just means that the person had better find a prospective co-parent who agrees with that philosophy. This post is completely incidental to my personal views, because I neither have nor want children. But from the facts that you've presented, I sure can't see where there's a clear-cut problem with the guy. If they got married having completely disparate views on their respective roles, than that's on both of them. If they got married having coinciding views, and one of them changed the rules in the middle of the game, then that's on whichever of one of them changed his or her mind. Could've been him; could've been her.
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I don't like women that have too much of that fancy book learnin'.
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Margarette, let's face it... you're just scary!

;)

(And most guys are STUPID!)

xoxoxo,

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Margarette
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Take away my handcuffs, straitjacket, chains, ropes, and locks, and I'm not THAT scary! Smile Unless, of course, you happen to see my first-thing-in-the-morning-before-coffee look!

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You're just that sweet little girl next door, aren't you, Sugar Pie? Smile
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Margarette
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...sweet as strychnine!! Smile

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Take away the handcuffs, straitjacket, chains, ropes, and locks... ?
What fun is that???
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Margarette
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Hey, at least I didn't say "take away the handcuffs, straitjacket, chains, ropes, locks,...and leather!" See, I ain't as dumb as I look! Smile

Margarette
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But for all of us self declared exceptions, men don't want to be around smart women. I'm not sure why but I suspect it's part of the hunter/gatherer distiction. I know a lot of very attractive smart women who no one asks out. One of them is a serious beer drinker and sometimes goes to 7 baseball games in a week. You'd think, "What more could I guy want?" (Well, I do know what else a guy would want, but I'll bet that's there too) But no dice.
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It is basically very simple (IMHO).

There are all kinds of men and women out there, with all kinds of fears, phobias, insecurities, etc.... Some of them are peculiar to men, for the most part. Some of them are peculiar (for the most part) to women.
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I was going to write this

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Unfortunately, most men are jerks. I hate to see people treat women like this.
Not me though, I think smart women are great. Every man should own one!



Then I realized that some people might take it the wrong way, so I won't write it.
Humor can get a guy in trouble.....
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On 2006-07-24 17:43, Noel M wrote:
I know a lot of very attractive smart women who no one asks out. One of them is a serious beer drinker and sometimes goes to 7 baseball games in a week. You'd think, "What more could I guy want?"


Smart, attractive, and maybe with no man in her life because she wants and has a "girlfriend" instead.
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On 2006-07-24 17:43, Noel M wrote:
I know a lot of very attractive smart women who no one asks out. One of them is a serious beer drinker and sometimes goes to 7 baseball games in a week. You'd think, "What more could I guy want?"


Smart, attractive, and maybe with no man in her life because she wants and has a "girlfriend" instead.


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