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Jacob Smith
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Anyone used the striking vanish as a visual penitration?
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If you came to this insight yourself, that's good thinking.

Folks from the guy who invented it to Michael Weber have explored the basics.

It made the rounds and hit print some time ago and video about five years later.

You're in good company. Enjoy.
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Thanks jonathan,im happy to hear at least I'm thinking on the same level as Mr.Weber.
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Been done, elusionst sells it as "infusion" with no credit to Williamson whatsoever
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I've used it for my Coin in Bottle for a few years now. I've also seen a few guys around that have come up with the idea ever since Passing Through came out. Also, why has no one complained about Infusion? If they have, I missed it completely. When I first saw it, I assumed that Dave Williamson would have been doing it for years.
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If I'm not mistaken, I think this idea is brought up in the description of the Striking Vanish in the book, Williamson's Wonders, so it's been around awhile.

I used to use this all the time in walk-around. Very strong. Even had return customers request this effect specifically. My biggest problem with it is that the "strike" drives the f**ding coin with high impact into the bottom of the bottle. The edges of the f**ding coin are very gentle and the driving force would bend them inward and deform the edges all around after 4 or 5 tables. I could bend them back later with a small screwdriver or sharp edge, but eventually I would be forced to buy a new coin every couple weeks. Very annoying, since the effect is so strong.
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I mean you have a folding coin and you do the striking as the penetration.
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I believe John Carney uses the striking vanish in his coin in bottle routine in Carneycopia.

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Ooo well at least I know I'm thinking.thanks for giving me more information on this.
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Not to be picky, but Carney actually uses a bottle "spin" to imply the coin is propelled into the bottle on that action. It is effective and deceptive.
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The Infusion or "striking" coin penetration through drinking glass is great, but I think he was talking about coin through beer bottle with a f****** coin, which is also a great effect. I also use the move for a finger ring effect from Garrett's Ring Thing. My only issue with the striking vanish move is that I found that I had to obsessively practice it for quite a while before I could 100% rely on it in actual performance. I guess that's true of a lot of good effects though, but I had a particularly difficult time getting my consistency up with this move. Because of its diverse applications though it is definitely a sleight worth mastering.
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On 2006-08-10 12:52, doug brewer wrote:

I used to use this all the time in walk-around. Very strong. Even had return customers request this effect specifically. My biggest problem with it is that the "strike" drives the f**ding coin with high impact into the bottom of the bottle. The edges of the f**ding coin are very gentle and the driving force would bend them inward and deform the edges all around after 4 or 5 tables. I could bend them back later with a small screwdriver or sharp edge, but eventually I would be forced to buy a new coin every couple weeks. Very annoying, since the effect is so strong.


Up until very recently I used to have the same problem sometimes. After viewing a performance of Cyril performing this effect I started using his more gentle approach and eliminated the problem. Here's a link to his performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73pL6zaKh......takayama
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Guys, another solution to the problem is to use a plastic bottle for this. I tried it one night at a party where they were serving water in plastic bottles. (Hey, we're pretty informal here in Hawaii.) I learned two things:

One, the effect is still strong. The coin makes a lot of noise inside the bottle, and people seemed to be very impressed, despite the fact that the bottle is plastic. They wanted to examine the bottle more closely than with a glass bottle.

Two, a lot of water bottles don't have the gently sloping neck that lets you get the coin out without a lot of shaking and luck. Check before doing this. Dasani bottles are nice.

Regarding John Carney's use of the striking vanish in this effect, it is given as an alternative handling in Michael Ammar's original write up of Carney's Coin in the Bottle in Encore 2.
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I have a case of Dasani in the garage. Time to look at the bottles a little closer . . .
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Hey Doug,

You did not happen to "accidently" spit in her face a little did you? This gets a great reaction. Then you can do matrix with the spittle drops on her face.

So bonus!

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Corey: Great to see you around here. No - no spitting. I was annoyed (inside, where it counts), however, and hesitated doing the trick she actually requested (always strong, of course) or going into the bottle trick. I opted for her request . . .
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I used the strike vanish for my coin throguh bottle.
I love it so much. It just very visual and your hand that your vanishing it from ends so clean!!!
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Hey Doug if I recall time ago you posted in another thread that you were already working on a new DVD with new routines with the 3CM/Triple T.

Is my memory correct ? If yes what is the status on this.

Please let me know

Thanks
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Hi Pachin. Thanks for remembering (honestly). Unfortunately, there was a major audio glitch after an entire day of filming. We had to trash all of it. We are rescheduled to shoot the entire thing over probably within 2 weeks. As a result, I'm adding an extra Triple Threat routine (and possibly a third) on hindsight of what we did that day. It should be a fun video for everyone. I have a lot of variety using gaffs, no gaffs, and plots. I'll give an official announcement when it's done.
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On 2006-08-11 17:19, doug brewer wrote:
I have a case of Dasani in the garage. Time to look at the bottles a little closer . . .


Check out the FIJI water bottle 500mL....easy in and quick out, plus a nice flat edge to display the coin against, once inside.
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