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Donny Orbit Special user 944 Posts |
Once you are ready to advance into more advanced general magic, you might want to check out Apocolypse Vol 1 which is in my opinion the best.
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Eldon Inner circle Virden, IL 1137 Posts |
All great suggestions but I like Vincent's list.
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dillib Elite user 476 Posts |
Get the Tarbell Course, it's only about US$37 from Lybrary.com
Chee Shan
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Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1826 Posts |
I have to agree with Paul as for starting with the Tarbell course volume #1 and advancing. It is also the most economical book when bought separately. Buy #1 and see if you do not agree. Otherwise yes on the Mark Wilson Course and Harry Loraynes Magic book, both excellent books to start with.
Rennie
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Michaels Elite user 412 Posts |
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On 2002-12-19 13:06, Andrew wrote: The original post is asking for single books other than Tarbell. Tarbell is a great series but it doesn't appear to be what Andrew is asking for.
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Thoughtreader Inner circle Calgary, Alberta, Canada 1565 Posts |
He wants a single book (Hmmm, perhaps 8 bopoks would be too many or he wants the readers digest version, which as far as mastering magic goes, there is no such thing), hence again for a beginner I suggest Tarbel Course in Magic Volume ONE.
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Andrew Loyal user 285 Posts |
Thank you everyone for your advice again.
In answer to Spiders qustion I ordered The Wilson course. Unfortunately it has been delayed according to Amazon.com and is not expected to be available in the UK for at least another six weeks. In the mean time I now have several more interesting suggestions I was not even aware of. "The Art of Close Up Magic" Lewis Ganson sounds intriguing, as does "Secrets of Alkazar" In response to Thoughtreader- May I refer you to my original post? I want to explore other areas of close up magic in addition to my prime interest in card magic. A single general magic volume will allow me to have a taste of several other areas - an overview, one or two of which I may wish to study further and deeper. So yes the 8 volume Tarbell course would be too much at this stage. I don't want to make the familiar hobbyists mistake of accumulating many books and mastering none of them. I don't think that reflects a "cutting corners" mentalitywhich was a little presumptious of you to suggest. Thank you for your advice anyway - and to everyone else as well |
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Thoughtreader Inner circle Calgary, Alberta, Canada 1565 Posts |
Andrew,
I will go out on a limb here as judging by your comments, you have not bothered to even look atTarbell Volume one and so let me explain that it covers the following (remember this is merely volume one): The History of Magic (something that is extremelt improtant in learning and studying magic; Magic as a science; Sleight of hand with coins; Coin tricks; more coin tricks; The thumb tip; Impromptu tricks; ball tricks; mathematical mysteries; effective card mysteries; eight impromptu card mysteries; mental card mysteries; card sleights; novel card mysteries; restoring torn papers; the rope and tape principle; handkerchief tricks; knotty silks; AND eggs and silks. So, that doesn't give you a good selection of different types of magic? That doesn't give you a varied, and yet, step by step approach to learning various types of magic? Perhaps next time you ask a general question and you get numerous responses (especially from professionals) you might not be so kurt. The Tarbell course (and volume one is only about $20) will start you on a road to learning all the various segemnts of magic. Study it and learn it step by step and you truly need not purchase another set of books to be well learned of magic, it's history as well as it's principles. Volume One is merely the start BUT a varied one to give you a taste of many of it's areas. |
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Andrew Loyal user 285 Posts |
[quote]On 2003-06-03 22:38, Thoughtreader wrote:
Andrew, ...it covers the following (remember this is merely volume one): The History of Magic (something that is extremelt improtant in learning and studying magic; Magic as a science; Sleight of hand with coins; Coin tricks; more coin tricks; The thumb tip; Impromptu tricks; ball tricks; mathematical mysteries; effective card mysteries; eight impromptu card mysteries; mental card mysteries; card sleights; novel card mysteries; restoring torn papers; the rope and tape principle; handkerchief tricks; knotty silks; AND eggs and silks. So, that doesn't give you a good selection of different types of magic? That doesn't give you a varied, and yet, step by step approach to learning various types of magic?... Well of course it does. The point is I was not aware of the contents of Tarbell 1 at he time of my first post. Not a question of couldn't be "bothered". I had bothered to check out the only magic book I could access without purchasing - Wilson at my local library. So what do you do when you know there must be other relevant books but don't want to purchase several to find one one which suits? You post a message for advice in the New To Magic Section and hope to get friendly advice from others more knowledgeable. And that's generally what happened. I don't think one's professional status correlates with any authority to make inaccurate presumptions about a students approach to this art which I take seriously and respect. That was the trigger for the comments Thought reader found curt. No offence was meant. Today I also found a magic book refrence site which lists the contents of many magic books. I think Tarbell 1 is an excellent recommendation and prefer this over Wilson on the basis of the contents alone. Best to all. |
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m.ruetz Veteran user Peoria Arizona, USA 378 Posts |
If you are having trouble locating Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic, try eBay or half.com This book is quite common and imagine you can find it in the $5-6 range.
Also, Andrew in the UK you have a great resource for books out there in Magic Books by Post. Check them out at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/magicbooks/
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0pus Inner circle New Jersey 1739 Posts |
Andrew,
Given the following factors stated in your initial post: 1. You are a competent card worker 2. You want to get in to other (i.e., non-card) areas of sleight of hand/close up magic 3. You are after a single book then I would have to say that Henry Hay's "The Amateur Magician's Handbook" would be the best choice. I would also suggest Bill Tarr's "Now You See It, Now You Don't" (Volume 1) as a suitable alternative. Hay's book is a standard paperback size, and is easier to carry and read while riding mass transit. The Tarr book concentrates on sleight of hand. The Tarbell course is somewhat overwhelming in its scope and presents a daunting challenge if you are just starting into non-card sleight of hand. Volume 1 has a substantial portion devoted to card magic, which does not appear to be what you are looking for. As for Lorayne, I do not like his material, although Lorayne is admired by a vast number of magicians. My dislike for Lorayne is my own very personal gut reaction to Lorayne's personality; I find it off-putting. 0pus |
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FZandura Loyal user North Carolina 247 Posts |
I'd second Bill Tarr's Now You See It, Now You Don't Vol 1. (excellent) He has also put out a Vol 2, but I have not seen it yet.
F. Zandura
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Unkani New user 36 Posts |
Hello everyone.
I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but here goes. I am helping a missionary kid in Quito, Ecuador do a "magic project" for school. His father writes: I am working on Nate's magic project with him and we have a magic trick that involves 5 cards. There are 4 rows and 4 columns of numbers on each card. The volunteer from the audience is asked to pick a number on the first card. Each following card he is asked to say if the card has his number on it. The numbers in the upper left hand corner are added together for each card on which the person's number appears. After going through all 5 cards, the magician can easily tell the person which number he chose. Do you anything about this trick...such as where it originated, etc.? Do most tricks like this originate in the USA? I know this trick has been around a long time and that it frequently appears in magic kits. But, does anymore know the origin? Thanks, Bob Spray Unkani |
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Unkani New user 36 Posts |
Oh..
I live in Arkansas. Bob |
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andre combrinck Special user South Africa 953 Posts |
The good news is after Mark Wilson,Bill Tarr,Henry Hay and Hugard/Giobbi come the greatest book ever written on general magic:Star of Magic-Classic and IMHO teaches you all THE classic/great routines.
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Banester Special user 669 Posts |
I have Mark Wilson's book and some of Harry's work. Both are great, but there is one other that I have found to be quite useful and that one is Magic digest;: Fun magic for everyone, by George B Anderson.
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MagiClyde Special user Columbus, Ohio 871 Posts |
Mark Wilson's Cyclepedia of Magic. It is a smaller, condensed version of his course and is easier to carry around with you. The last time I checked, this book was just $10 and the Complete course was about $25.
Another possibility might be Scarne's Magic Tricks or any of the Fulves self-working tricks books (table, rope, etc.), not just the card magic books.
Magic! The quicker picker-upper!
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tangle New user australia 80 Posts |
Ive just ordered The Amateur Magician's Handbook, I'm not new but this gets mentioned as great so often.
I didn't like tar's book for some reason, good effects, just the pictures I think, they're clear, I just didn't like em. wilson's course is great. now I'm waiting for the postperson! |
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JIMclubber64 Loyal user 269 Posts |
I'm not sure what your level is outside of card work, but I reccomend Street Magic by Paul Zenon (I think that's how it's spelled). It is about 50% card magic, but it's still a very nice resourse, IMO. It has basic coin, mind reading, card, and other Misc. category tricks. But since you are a proficient in car magice, you may want to see if you can find it at a library or something just to get a general idea of the card tricks so you're not wasting half of the money.
EDIT: oops, sorry. I missed your post somehow, and didn't realise how old this thread was.
"Magic should always have a purpose. [...] Find your purpose for performing. Only then will you be able to find the right trick!" -- Jay Noblezada
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vpatanio Special user 515 Posts |
All of the above suggestions are definitely great! I personally love Mark Wilsons book, I also like Joshua Jay's book Magic the Complete Course; both of these are great for beginners and experienced magicians. I really love Chris Kenner's Totally Out of Control; it is my favorite book by far. (Chris' book is a little more advanced...ok a lot more advanced, but the material is priceless!). The rest of the books I own and can comment on are area specific (ie. just cards, or just coins, etc...)
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