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micromega New user 71 Posts |
I was wondering what kind of response people generally get from performing rubberband effects. I have recently performed several effects to test audience reaction and have been somewhat disappointed. I will typically do Pinnacle or CMH. CMH seems to get a better reaction, but it's nowhere near what I might get from a good card effect. The reaction is typically, "that's neat". There seems to be no 'WOW' factor. On that note, even though this might not be the right forum to ask this, what are some effects that you find really grab the audiences' attention and really amazes them. For me it seems to be that I can get the best reactions from card effects. But in terms of working on new effects, other than cards, that people have tried and tested, what do you consider to be the best effects in your repetoire. Moreover, what kind of effects do you steer clear of. Thanks for your thoughts.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
There is all the difference in the world between someone who DOES rubber band magic, and someone who PERFORMS rubber band magic, and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with the tricks that you have selected to do, my friend. If you look at "rubber band effects" you will find lots of reccomendations, and you can consider other tricks that would better fit your personality.
HAVE FUN Al Angello
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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dxsare Veteran user 361 Posts |
For anyone who hasn't really seen the cups and balls, I think they really get a kick out of any fine routine. Most people are shocked!
-Stevie D
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doug brewer V.I.P. 1142 Posts |
CMH is one of the strongest, cleanest bits of magic you can perform. Something must be missing or you just need to perform it more, because you should be getting strong responses. It kills and I do it at almost every table I work.
Steer clear, in general, of drawn out card effects that require counting by the spectator or require a lot of things for the spectator to remember. I also tend to lose people on eye candy effects where they are supposed to simply watch an effect without any interaction. Every trick I do requires the spectators to interact in some way - naming a card, holding an object, holding a rubberband, borrowing a ring or bill, signing a card, inspecting a cup, and lifting the cups to find potatoes. Hope this helps. |
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Brian Proctor Inner circle Somewhere 2323 Posts |
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On 2006-09-07 20:37, doug brewer wrote: I love rubberband magic and I get great reactions, however I think that some spectators have a hard time understanding rubberband magic if it is hard to see. Some magicians give too much cover, or worse, not enough cover at the right times. So people may not be quick to react if they are thinking about the stuff they just saw. I was watching an interview with David Copperfield a couple years ago online. A reporter asked him to do a trick, he chose to do CMH. It didn't phase the reporter, and to that, Mr. Copperfield looked kinda frustrated for the rest of the interview. I think if you come across too fast and not clarify your rubberband magic, it won't get the great responses you want. |
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meyegr Special user Only able to muster 800 Posts |
I think CMH is good because it is so simple. I don't care much for the rubber band effects that have a lot of funky twisting going on. I think the audience knows something is happening, just not what, so it becomes more of a puzzle.
Kind of like when one does funky pass movements with cards. They may not know what you are doing, just that you did something and it didn't look normal. I mean when a card is placed back into a deck, what is all this fumbling about. Of course I don't do it much, I do not have the skill, but a see a lot of others who 'think' they have the skill and don't. |
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Jerrine Special user Busking is work. 629 Posts |
I find CMH a great effect that gets Wows nearly every time. It's a common item, people get to stretch and play with them all they want before and after, perfect for the "do it again" guy, and the closer they look the less they see. Absolutely wonderful when you can borrow the bands. Coupled with Vinny's Liquid Band, which is sweet in itself, you got yourself some Magic Baby!
Bits I avoid? Echo the long drawn out card stuff, gaffed items (so far), and anything that just lays there(doesn't lend itself to interaction). |
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CdnAndrew New user 80 Posts |
I'm going to agree with the positive responses for CMH. When I perform it, I've always got amazed and "Wow" responses. It's one that I think needs the right presentation - the proper amount of attention needs to be drawn to the state of the elastics without explaining what will happen. My typical approach is to describe it as a metaphor for beliving in magic. "This band here (around left fingers) represents reality. This one here (around right fingers) represents your mind. You see, your mind is trapped (demonstrate 'stretching' to illustrate the bands are trapped) by reality. I know, it's a stretch.. but I'm proud of it! But, when you believe in magic, (bands melt apart) anything is possible."
It's a pretty simple presentation, but I find draws just the right amount of attention to the state of the bands before and after. I agree with those that say the long drawn out card routines don't work.. for me, anyway. In the right situation, they work really well. For me, however, I prefer much quicker, 'snappier' effects. I find people react well to very visual effects: like spellbound, Dr. Daley's last trick, etc. Effects like triumph are really neat, but I find often requires the performer to draw attention to the state. Just my humble opinion! |
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KapBoy77 Loyal user Ottawa, Canada 213 Posts |
I've been doing CMH for about 12 years now and I've noticed one thing. When performing this particular effect, I found that if I just go ahead and do it the spectator often doesn't know what just happened. I've done this quite a few times on those occurences where I just wasn't in the mood to perform something but was requested to do so. The strongest reactions to this effect, that I have, is when after the move is done I bring attention to the "crossroads" and I have them actually watch the bands penetrate one another. It's already done but to them they can actually see it happening. It's very interesting and funny how the power of suggestion works here. "See the bands are connected, now watch! You can actually see them penetrate one through the other!" I sometimes release one band at a time. It's a mind blower for sure.
Another thing I do when I have them hold one of the bands is kinda rub my fingers across the middle area of their band to make it look like I'm looking for the "sweet" spot. I don't know why but this also gives them the impression that something is really happening in that general area. The optical illusion as well as the power of suggestion makes this a very powerful effect. And I have tonnes of request to do it again and again. Which I don't 'cause I prefer watching people talk about it for a few months and let the legend spread. It's the only rubber band trick I do but I feel that's all I need. I've tried others but this one, I feel, is the best one, for me. Take it easy, Dre |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
I am not sure any patter is needed for CMH the effect alone is a minor miracle.
if you incoperate jeff pierce's Sl-Mo unlink with CMH this really adds to the illusion. vinny |
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VcosNJ Inner circle 1179 Posts |
CMH always garners the best reactions from my audience when I do it. They can burn your hands and they'll never catch you. I love it! I agree with Vinny, I usually don't do much patter when doing CMH. What they see is what they get.
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je4thomas New user Now in Southwest China 53 Posts |
I agree. The CMH is wonderful to watch. People are always amazed. It is one of my favorites!
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Je4thomas
Welcome to the magic Café. Pay attention to what the godfather tells you he is a legendary character here at the Café. HAVE FUN Al Angello
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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Mano Inner circle 1028 Posts |
Al Angello,
I agree with, the Godfather is the man. Mano. |
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Matt Malinas Inner circle Transylvania 1367 Posts |
I am very satisfied with the reactions I get when performing rubberband magic.
I also agree that no patter is needed when performing CMH.if that doesn't work for you then try using patter.try getting people more interested in rubberbands in general.talk about certain special abilities rubberbands have.get the idea across that they are special in some way.that should add a little to the reactions you get. good luck ! -Matt
The masters make the rules, for the wise men and the fools
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airship Inner circle In my day, I have driven 1594 Posts |
I get a very good reaction just with a simple 'jumping rubber bands' routine I worked up. But most of it's in the humorous patter that goes with it. And this despite the fact that I have very limited use of my little and ring fingers on each hand. Remember that magic is in the PRESENTATION, not the TRICK and you will do better with it.
'The central secret of conjuring is a manipulation of interest.' - Henry Hay
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mckinnon8 New user 1 Post |
Pinnacle --> Raised eyebrows
CMH --> Raised eyebrows + wow Vinny's Liquid Band --> Raised eyebrows + wow + dropped jaws :))) |
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johnnyimpossible Loyal user Omaha, Ne 244 Posts |
I perform over a dozen band effects and let me tell you, they get great reaction. Its all in the presentation. The great reactions will come through experience. Just keep at it. Make it not only magical, but make it entertaining. For example, I perform the boomerang effect where the band comes back to you after being shot at the ground in front of you. I don't just perform the effect. I lead into it with a clever entertaining patter. I'm sure it's one of the best out there. Not to bragg, but it is. It's experience, the skills in the presentation.
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MagicMan1957 Inner circle 1445 Posts |
I perform many Rubberband effects.
I think over all this is often perceived as a puzzle more then magic. I generally get much stronger reactions from other types of magic. I don;t think I have ever had anyone yell out " OH MY GOD " doing a band trick Although I have had that reaction to many other type effects. |
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John Gerard Loyal user Guam 283 Posts |
I start off with Stargazers. I get a good response with that. I move into CMH with the spectator holding one of the rubberbands in hand. They are burning the movement and they never get it. I Finish up my rubberband segment with band through thumb. My handling for this is that I stick the tip of my thmub between my lips so that they know it doesn't go over my thumb. The jaws drop on this one.
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