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killermagic80 Loyal user 263 Posts |
I have seen this advert on http://www.magicweek.co.uk
Criss angel has made a book, and as said he will explain 40 of the effects performed on the mindfreak series. I like Criss Angel as a magician and as an artist. It may be an interesting book, but I am disappointed that for one more time his product will be available for the general public. Every curious lay man will buy it just to find out the secrets of his effects. Unfortunately for us Criss Angel had violated one of the most important rules of magic: NEVER REVEAL A SECRET |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
He has violated that for quite some time by exposing magic on his show.
He has shown us exactly who he is more importantly. "We already know what he is, we are now negotiating a price".
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Blindside785 Inner circle Olympia, WA 4541 Posts |
Stuff preformed on mindfreak...That would be cool if that torn and restored signed bill was on there.
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sickmagic Special user 528 Posts |
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On 2006-09-10 11:07, Dannydoyle wrote: So has Mac King, Max Maven, Tom Ogdon, Bill Malone, and the list goes on and on violated that by exposing magic on TV? The tricks shown on these segments are simple tricks you can learn at the library. This has been done for many many years on TV. Nothing new, I think everyone is picking on Criss because he is the most visible at the moment. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
My mother always said..."If your friends jumped off a bridge would you?"
Just because everyones doing it doesn't mean it's right.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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frenchmagi Loyal user 264 Posts |
I wonder if he'll disclose his use of stooges?
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sickmagic Special user 528 Posts |
I am not saying it is right or wrong, I am just pointing out that he is not the only magician in that has shared simple magic tricks on a tv show.
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killermagic80 Loyal user 263 Posts |
The tricks he is sharing are not simple at all. The levitation he sold for the general public, the coin through soda can, the book with 40 effects explained from his series and sold and be available for the general public.....all the above are not simple effects at all. They are PROFFESIONAL effects that again a magician shouldn't reveal the secrets.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
We all know that sometimes the simplest trick is VERY effective and shouldn't be revealed openly.
1) Criss sells to Magicians (Up to $100 per pop) He makes money $$$$$ 2) Criss (And Co-Horts) exposes on TV... He makes money $$$$$ 3) Magicians get upset so....Criss sells to General Public..He makes money $$$$ I see a trend here?????
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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killermagic80 Loyal user 263 Posts |
Masked Magician exposed magic on TV and made money $$$$$.
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Magiguy Inner circle Seattle, WA 5467 Posts |
Read carefully. The ad for the book does not actually indicate that he'll teach any of the items from the show. It merely says, "The most provocative mystifier in decades reveals secrets of 40 amazing illusions that fans can master." Sounds like a load of sales hype to me. I was more interested to finally read a synopsis of the upcoming Derren Brown book, listed on the same page at Amazon-UK.
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killermagic80 Loyal user 263 Posts |
Either way is really bad.
Paul Zennon did the same at amazon.uk with his book that many lay men bought. he was explaining metal bending, center tear, out of this world and many other important and valuable effects. I don't understand why those people don't sell their stuff just through magic shops. That is the worse thing for the art. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
People have indeed exposed magic before. People have been in the oldest profession for quite some time.
Does that make a person working for an escort service LESS of a member? We already know what he is, we are simply negotiating a price.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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killermagic80 Loyal user 263 Posts |
Yes but this is not an excuse.
Is not something right even if people have done it in the past? We can not calm down and say its okay because some years ago there was a masked magician and other clowns that followed. |
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
Keep it up guys, his publicist is probably loving it.
"Now you can read the book that magicians didn't want you to see! Order today!"
No trees were killed in the making of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
I hope NO Magicians purchase this. Publicity ISN'T always a good thing.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yea Dave your right, the publicity he gets from 12 or 50 posts here on the Café will definitely put him in another tax bracket.
Don't you think he will advertise it that way anyhow? Look how Penn and Teller brag about the "routine that got us thrown out of the Magic Castle". It is a forum to "discuss" things. Why not let people "discuss"?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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frenchmagi Loyal user 264 Posts |
If you guys think that the general population cares at all about what "secrets" are revealed in the book, you're kidding yourselves. The only people that will buy this are 14 year old boys who think Criss Angel is "really cool" and have some interest in magic.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2006-09-11 13:39, raphlo2 wrote: Probably not that far from the truth.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Dove84 Regular user 181 Posts |
The salt shaker through the table, while a simple enough trick, worked very well for many of us. Same with the shell game. When you stop and think about it some of the very best tricks in magic are very very simple. That's no reason to expose. As already pointed out this is all about money. You buy this book you won't be getting the tricks from mindfreak, most of which can't be done anyway. You'll get a lot of recycled crap.
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