Thanks a lot for all the input guys!
I never thought of the egg and bagg transposing, but it is a clever idea...
The Carney routine I love; I saw him do that in the Parlour and I was flored by it! Frank, is there a video that teaches the method, or just the performance?

I have heard good things about the Mullica and Ganson routine, so I will have to look into those.

thanks again,

Sadly, Carney's routine is NOT published and is not authorized for performance even if you do own his performance only video. Believe me, I asked.

It's on his 'up close and far away' video.

what I found was that... unable to perform that routine, I grabbed my notebook and started writing down every crazy idea that came into my haed. soon enough I had something I liked with a couple nifty ideas I've never seen before in my life. so I'm on my own with this and I'm liking the mental exercise. I've become far more creative having been forced to go my own way.

How you end the egg bag depends on how you decide to present it. How you present it depends on why you present it, etc. etc.

It seems to me that there are three popular approaches. The first is the Ken Brooke approach. It's a challenge effect. No matter how closely they watch, no matter how much they handle the props, the egg still appears in the bag. The essence of the experience is a simple unfathomable small mystery, and lots of interaction. In this case, the final ultra clean production of the egg is all the ending you need.

The second group is ala the Ross Bertram routine, where the bag is more or less the same thing as a chop cup. The egg appears and disappears to get their attention, and then there's a final load. This approach doesn't feature much interaction, it's all about the production.

The third style is everything else, like the Ganson routine that treats the egg bag pretty much like a silent stage silk routine. It's one of a kind, and it writes its own ending.

So, if you're doing an interactive routine, I'd say stop worrying about what you're going to DO at the end, and figure out what you're going to SAY at the end.

On the other hand, if you're doing the egg bag because you want a quick visual surprise, then I'd go with the big load at the end. This is the approach I took, because I wanted the egg bag to work as an opener. If you want to see my final load, it's on the LVMI discs. Jim Steinmeyer also produces a large object at the end of a largely non-interactive routine. His handling was in his column, so it's probably in the collection. He produced a giant egg. It makes sense. I'm happy to say my load makes sense as well, it's a cast iron skillet that fits in the bag.

There are some people who do a fine interactive routine, and then end with a final load. Denny's a good example. I think in those cases, the load plays as punctuation,i.e. it lets the audience know the trick's over. It's icing on the cake. Denny's routine would be almost as good, and certainly as memorable, without the shot glass.

Do what you like, of course, but that's how I see it.

Thank you very much Mr. Kam!
Having never performed this effect for an audience, I still don't know how it plays and how great the finale of them producing the egg actually is. Multiple people now have said that it is very strong, so it must be.
I like the interactive approach that Ken Brooke's has. It is just to my liking.

I guess what I was thinking about was that punctuation to the effect that Denny's routine has. I feel that if I did the Ken Brooks's routine, they would think the last part was incredible, but I don't know if they would think that that was the end of the effect. Obviously, I could be wrong.

Frank, I think I too will toss some ideas around for a while.

Any thoughts on using an extra egg and making the egg jump into the bag that the spectator is holding? I think that might open a bunch of other doors...

Bill:

The ending to the Ganson routine you are referring too “Egg Bag, Bag Egg” is not the finish you stated. The Ganson routine is a transposition of a bag and an egg, finishing with a stenciled image of an egg on the bag. The image is removed crumbled, place on a fan and the “crumbled” image becomes and egg (ala Max Sterling – egg on fan) and the egg is cracked open to prove that it is a real egg.

It’s an interesting routine. However, in my research on the subject, I have not found anything in print or have seen or have heard of anyone else performing the finish you stated.


Eric DeCamps

You are right. I should have looked it up to refresh my memory. I found it somewhat confusing when I originally read it. It requires an awful lot of preparation.

I find that it's hard to top having the spectator pull out an egg from the bag, or in my case a golf ball from the bag, after they've made sure that it's empty.

I think it depends on performing style.

Of this I know...
Street wise...interactive wise. when the egg ends up in the bag (Mardo) after spec held it and found it empty is the ending... but then on the offbeat I take the bag as the response is shown by the audience... and shove this stupid 6" chicken in...pass it to some female who I hope will give a great reaction (one time a lady peed I was told) for the joke....(are you all sensing a unique performing style here?) I barely load the bag with a straight face.. I do it not for the load but for the joke. it takes the pressure off the big egg reveal.
and then I show every body how the chicken dances...on my table or someone's head.. .the ruber legs are hysterical in this ...you need to do this if you are chicken...laden. The load diffuses the big surprise and I build soon after for my closer... Curtis is so right its the interaction that works with this and really ends best that way.. I dilute a bit in my craziness to great response not hoping much that the bird will be that surprsing but simply humorous.

Marty

Dan Tong's ending with a glass of liquid is a killer.

I do the interactive style, I've pretended to "sneak" the egg into my pocket in sucker trick fashion, so my little move at the end is to show my pocket empty just after the spectator retrieves and displays the egg. I wonder if I could turn it into a "Signed, cracked and restored egg routine?" (Just kidding).

But I could keep having the spectator reach into the bag for more eggs, if I'm not afraid to weaken the original effect. Maybe this would work for you, too.

Black Fox has a nice ending where you produce a Shot Glass of Whiskey from your Egg bag as a finish. I belive it's called 'Eggcessory'.

Danny Korem has a great egg bag routine in his book.

I use one of these. very nice gimmick. easy to use.
http://www.theambitiouscard.com/details.......CHNAPPSS

what is danny's book called?

Frank:
Danny's book is called "Korem Without Limits."

Danny Tong also does this. He explains his holder on his DVD, but I don't know if it's the same as others mentioned here.

No, danny's method is different and I'm not sure it would suit me.
for a standup show it would suit me but not for walking around.

Sorry Frank, but I can't resist:

"Retail $10
Our Price $16.20"

and you're still running low on stock!

I'm impressed......and a little jealous actually.

sam

If you squint, you'll see that it is retail $18.

you had me going there for a second...

I think some clarification is required.

There is no Egg Bag routine in "Korem Without Limits".

I'm not sure which routine he mentions this in, but it is definitely in the book. I just can't find my copy right now. He addresses a bit in the routine where he puts a blown egg in the spectator's pocket and smashes it. There is a lot of comedy byplay associated with it.