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Ashkenazi the Pretty Good
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Hi Ladies & Gents,

Don't mock me, but I think I'm going to make the labels for my just-finished demo "myself."

By that, I mean having some local process & product combo that is easy. For example, buying the the labels at some chain, and the copies made at another chain.

Couldn't find anything here on this topic (though its mentioned as part of a process for those having DVDs made).

Thoughts - other than I'm ridiculous for doing it? (If you mention that in a funny way, I'm OK with that.)

Thanks in advance,
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You're ridiculous.




Ok, I just had to. Anyway, on a more serious note, here's what I'd recommend. Don't use labels. Huh? I'm serious. Don't use labels that stick on DVDs. Baaaaaaadddd!!!! There are several reasons why. One is the hotter temp of the DVD player/computer could cause the glue/gum to warm up and the high speed of the spinning disc could cause said glue/gum to fling out into the inner workings of their player/computer. Bad.

Also, the label will unbalance the disc, rendering it less likely to play in said player/computer. In a world that's just not fair when it comes to DVDs working universally, things like DVD-R and DVD+R were confusing enough. Now there's stuff like labels to throw into the mix.

When I burn DVDs for clients, I have a printer that is specifically designed to print directly on the blank DVD (the top side, I mean). It looks like a white top to the DVD and feeds into the ink jet printer. The model I use is the Epson R200. Very good printer, though I think it's been replaced by the newer R300 or something like that.

The Ink-jet printable DVDs can be purchased in any Staples, though they can be found cheaper on Amazon. (oh yeah, it's probably urban myth, but from what I've found, DVD-R is more compatible with standard DVD players than DVD+R.)

Good luck!!!

Scott

Did I say you're ridiculous? *GRIN* Smile
If you're really looking to do this cheaper, Discmakers can do this whole process for you, but then I couldn't call you ridiculous! Seriously, though, good luck. Awesome!!!!!
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What more is there to say. Scott is not only generous with his time but he knows what he is talking about. He has done wonderful video work for folks all over and I personally have not seen anyone as good as him in what he does. He openly shares his information and help with anyone serious enough to ask and I personally thank him for doing so. He also has a nice series of notes that talk all about video production and everything you could possibly want to know about it. It might be something you might want to look into yourself.

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BTW, if you are burning your own DVDs on your computer, there are some computers with LightScribe in them, that will etch an image into the top of the disk after burning it. This is different than printing them in a label printer, or getting the disks done professionally elsewhere.

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Donald,

I am glad you mentioned this as my own home burner has this ability. I have not tried it yet but I think you need to buy special DVDs that will allow you to be able to use this function or your system and burner. Do you know if this is true? I am just curious as I would like to try it out this weekend. Thanks in advance.

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Kyle -

I don't have a computer with LightScribe, but I recommend you read this page on their website. It talks about looking for media with the LightScribe logo on it, and that this media is made by a variety of manufacturers. Looks like you can find it at Staples and other stores. I think that question was on the FAQs page on the LightScribe website.

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"Tis true, 'tis indeed.

They're special; they're expensive. Anybody care to share the best price they've found for these DVD's? The external burner is about $180. So I doubt this would be cost-effective, but am happy to consider it....but not at the prices the blanks are sold at locally.

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Kyle -

Didn't get a chance to edit my post, but here's another page with some info, too.

- Donald
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Donald,

Thanks my friend for the links and information. This will be a big help to me. My burner has lightscribe built into it but I have never used it. I think a lot of the newer computer system these days are coming with this feature installed in it already. I want to start using it for my own show DVDs and my own collection and think this might be a great way to label them.

I have a Staples right across the street so that would make things a lot easier. I will take a look at the site and give it a try this weekend and let you all know how it goes for me.

Thanks again Donald. You are always a huge help. =)

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Donald & Kyle!

Naughty Magis! Provide pricing and specifics, or no spring flowers in your stockings this year!

: )

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Aww man no spring flowers.. but I have been such a good little Magi. I wish I could give you the cost but my system when I bought it a year ago came with the burner already installed. the burner came with LightScribe. When I go and purchase the DVDs and Cds I will certainly let you know the prices I am finding. Not a problem at all.

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I think you can buy a new computer with LightScribe in it for about $550 CAN. It was a Compaq Presario model desktop, no monitor.

I don't know what the media costs.

As I said, I don't own or use this stuff, just am aware of it.

- Donald

P.S. For Canadians, here is what happened when I typed "LightScribe" into the search function on The Source by Circuit City website (Canadian website). There is both computers and media listed.

Looks like there is a 10-pack of DVD+R on for $9.99 right now.

Does that help you in California? Smile
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Ok here is some prices and information I obtained from Staples and it is in US Dollars. Hope this might help everyone.

Staples:
HP Lightscribe CD-R 25 Pack = $17.98

HP 25/Pack 4.7GB Lightscribe DVD-R, Spindle = $24.98

Lacie 16x Double Layer DVD Drive with Lightscribe = $89.90

I/O Magic 16X External Double Layer DVD Drive With LightScribe™ = $119.98

I/O Magic Internal Double Layer DVD Rewritable Drive with Lightscribe™ = $79.98

Cicuit City:
HP LightScribe CD-Rs (LCR00041M) 25 pack - On Sale = $9.99

HP Internal Super Multi DVD Writer (DVD840RI) - LightScribe enables = $71.99

HP External DVD+/-RW Drive (DVD740RE) = $134.99

I hope this helps a little bit or give you an idea on prices for cds, DVDS, and drives.

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Wow. Great info guys! You learn soooo much on the Café!

I've yet to use the LightScribe, but have seen some discs printed with it. Thanks Kyle and Donald for that info!

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You are most welcome Scott. I have not tried using my own lightscribe burner but plan to run some tests soon with it. I will let you know what I find out and such and pass the information onto you guys here at the Café. My pleasure.

And thanks again Scott for always sharing your information on video production with us. I really am serious when I say that you know more about this subject then many I have talked to and I would recommend anyone to seek out Scott's advice and information he can give to you. He knows what he is talking about because he comes from the same background we all do.

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Atpg,

Although Light Scribe disk look classy they are much more expensive and much more time consuming to produce. If you are looking to simply make a few for a few potential corporate clients it may be justified to go this route. However if you are looking to produce quantities as I do (I have a small video production operation) then first do not buy your blank disk from a retail outlet and second invest in a disk printer that print’s directly on the blank (you can get one for $150 and even use it as a regular paper printer). Do not use labels.

Again if you just want to produce a few then Light Scribe may be the way to go.

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Thanks David for that information. For my own personal use, I only plan on using my LightScribe for a few personal DVds and cds I am doing for myself or some friends. I am trying to take my Video collection and place them onto DVDs and I think for this LightScribe may work out nicely.

I agree with you that if you are doing a large run of DVDs, then going the way you and Scott mentioned is certainly the way to go and more cost effective. Thanks again for sharing that information with us.

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I started reading a little bit about LightScribe today, as we were discussing this topic. One reviewer commented that it took 22 minutes for his drive to etch the disk.

Not a bad thing in every situation, just something to be aware of.

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Ouch. I am going to have to try it out myself and run a test on the disc I have here. I will also time how long it takes using the current system I have. I can then let you know what I experienced both positive and negative. My system is more hi end because of the graphic intensive work I do so I am curious to see if the time would be greatly reduced. I will keep you posted as I explore this.

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Another great option is to go with a desktop DVD publisher, Like Primera Bravo.

We have owned one for several years now and love it. It hooks to your computer via two cables, firewire and USB. It burns and prints discs at the same time, on different dics.

It runs by itself with robotic arms picking up the discs and putting them into either the burner or printer. In about four hours time I have 50 DVD's burned and printed without touching anything.

You can start it at night and wake up to 50 discs or you can still work on your computer doing other things as it is not very taxing on memory.

The printer does a great job with full color or B&W. Printable DVD's can be purchased for around $.25 today.


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