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Jeff Jenson
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I'm in a mental magic block and can't seem to get my head in the game. Here is my problem, I'm planning on doing the silk to egg effect then reproduce the silk via the T**** Tip and the go into producing a rabbit in a black art box. But heres the problem I'm not sure if a white silk to egg would go over to well because white on white just won't work, plus I use a blue or red silk for that effect. any suggestens would be helpful.

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Jeff, whenever you do silk to egg, you really do need to use a colored silk that has contrast. As you know, it is the contrast that helps in the performance of the effect so that the audience can see it clearly inside the egg during your description part and also see it at the end for the suprise ending. A white silk in a white egg just would not have enough contrast for you in my humble opinion. However, there may still be ways inwhich you can do the egg trick and still transition nicely into the rabbit production.

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On 2006-09-28 07:25, magic4u02 wrote:
Jeff, whenever you do silk to egg, you really do need to use a colored silk that has contrast. As you know, it is the contrast that helps in the performance of the effect so that the audience can see it clearly inside the egg during your description part and also see it at the end for the suprise ending. A white silk in a white egg just would not have enough contrast for you in my humble opinion. However, there may still be ways inwhich you can do the egg trick and still transition nicely into the rabbit production.

Kyle



As usual Kyle makes perfect sense in his observation!!

This effect because of the contrast plays so well-Definetly use it if you can

I use this in theatres upto 800 people & cabarets & clubs with 2-300 & it really brings the house down

2 reasons- 1 is the sucker ending & 2 its very visual-the red & white!!

Just a thought

Good luck with your ideas!!

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Thanks for the kind words Brent. One thing that you could do to transition the effect is to make the silk have a color (I use red for good contrast). However, maybe this silk also has a picture of a rabbit on it. This way you could still have success using the silk in your silk to egg routine, and then can transition to the silk becoming a real rabbit. It might just work.

Maybe when you are doing the silk to egg, you talk about your pet rabbit who loves his favorite food. Thie audienceor kids may shout out carrots while you say, "no everyone knows that rabbits love scrambled eggs". It would get a laugh and allow you to do a versionof silk to egg in a funny way with a suprise ending. You then can use the silk with the rabbit picture into the next routine such as a buny box etc.

Just an idea to play around with.

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How about a green egg? You can get them in every grocery store in, uhm Argentina I think. http://www.vogthorstar.com/green-eggs.png

Ah well. Just performed silk to egg twice this morning at a local school. No, no, don't use a white silk!
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I use a silk American Flag to egg. A white egg shows up best. Brown, Green, etc. are hard to see from any distance. Keep the HANDLING simple, work on the talk and presentation. And the TIMING. When they think the trick is over, pause, switch, and reveal.
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I am actually so amazed at that fact of just how simple my switch is for the silk to egg. So much so that when I do it, I actually chuckle inside from the sheer fact that I am getting away with it and no one suspects anything. The reason for this is that I have established in the routine what I call "naural misdirection". I learned that I could do a certain move that was so natural for me to do and so logical, that the audience is none the wiser.

It is funny to me because it came about from trying so many ideas and different methods over the years and never really liking any of them. They all felt too awkward in the routine I was doing. Then it dawned on me that the answer lied right in simplicity. I have been doing it this way ever since and love performing the routine now for audiences of 5 to 500+.

I would like to share the switch idea, but since this is a public thread, I will keep it to myself as to not cause any problems. However, one can learn a lot just by applying what Pete mentioned above.

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I have a set of the Magic Circus DVDs. The handling, when I analyzed how Mark Wilson did it, was so simple, yet it is highly deceptive. I might just learn it to add to my repertoire.
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Why not reproduce the silk via a die tube, that'll allow you to change the colour of the silk before producing the rabbit.
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Thanks for all the feed back I'll take them all into concideration.

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If I recall properly, I once saw someome take a white silk, roll it in his hands and an egg appeared. The egg was real and cracked open over a glass. Looked pretty good actually.
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Paul actually gives a pretty nice idea and an easy one at that. If you use the dye tube that could be a great way to transition form one effect into the other. Just make your patter make sense for what you are doing and tie it all together.

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HOward Bamman created a routine for Don Alan (and made the props, which I now have).

You changed a silk to an egg, explained it in the usual manner, then after you broke the egg, you poured the egg-matter back into your fist and re-produced the silk, THEN A WHOLE EGG.
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I use both white eggs and brown eggs. Especially if also using Weller eggs, white is the only remaining choice. However, brown eggs are much less likely to flash. I have gimmicks for both.

There is also the reality of life on the road. White eggs are more frequently available than brown ones. We use what is avaialable. Many of my real eggs used on stage came from the last place I ate. That is not magician's choice!

I have noticed that many magicians do not understand that brown egg gimicks are very available in the upper end props.

As far as the color silk used, since I am the magicians' silk importer, I use whatever colors go with the rest of the show, costumes, stage colors, etc. When in doubt, use red.

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I saw Howard do it a number of times as an emcee (in the 70s, if I recall) ...but never knew that he developed it for Don. I just thought it was Howard's trick. I resisted the temptation to imitate it, but it wasn't easy.
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Dana Daniels does this trick GREAT!!!!
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Don't forget that a plastic egg also makes a great pull.

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I think that another magician actually developed a method for doing the silk to egg using the egg as a pull gimmic that Bob mentioned above. I had it for a while before developing a much easier and much more deceptive way for me to handle it in my own routine. I think it was Loren Christopher Michaels who developed the concept.

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Kyle,

I have no idea who started using that idea. I do know that it is at least fifty years old with plastic eggs. We also know that the elastic pull is not even Western World. The question is how Pre-Columbian it really is. The use of egg shells as containers for other things pre-dates the discovery of Australia. America was hundreds of years too late.

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On another forum someone in the UK complained that they only have brown eggs and he cuoldn't find a gimmicked egg in brown.

I told him to buy spray paint, darkish flesh-color, from a display firm (the paint used to touch up window manequins) and paint both eggs to match.
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