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Danny Diamond Inner circle Connecticut 1400 Posts 
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On 2006-10-04 10:19, sodman12 wrote: Of course the odds of local police busting up a small stakes poker game, are pretty thin. But if a game involves large sums of money changing hands or creates parking or noise issues in a neighborhood - then the threat of police involvement increases.
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silverking Inner circle 4573 Posts
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The amount of money on the table doesn't impact whether the game is illegal or not.
It's the act of raking the pot that's illegal, not the act of playing poker. The police shouldn't be busting any game that isn't raking the pot. (of course you have to be telling them the truth!). Anybody can set up a game, but if you charge a membership fee, or rake the pot, or do anything else to take money to pay the house for running the game then you're likely going to get busted once word gets around (and it will). Remember too that running a tournement requires that ALL the entry money has to go back into the payout. You can't hold back the "costs" of running the tourney. |
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honus Veteran user 354 Posts
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On 2006-10-04 12:08, silverking wrote: That isn't the case in Illinois. The law reads: Quote:
Any person who knowingly permits any premises or property owned or occupied by him or under his control to be used as a gambling place commits a Class A misdemeanor. Of course, the players are breaking the law too. What I think Danny is saying is, not that the LEGALITY changes with the size of the game, but that the LIKELIHOOD of the police showing up does. |
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silverking Inner circle 4573 Posts
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Good point Honus, check your local laws. I'm speaking to the law as it is commonly written, but local laws are often written in response to local problems.
There are many things that can change as you get more money on the table. Not all relate to getting busted by the police, but some might make you wish the police were there! |
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Danny Diamond Inner circle Connecticut 1400 Posts
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On 2006-10-04 12:23, honus wrote: That is exactly what I was saying, thanks Honus. I know that a penny rake per pot is the same as $5 per pot, as far as the law goes. But your $20 buy-in No-Limit tourney played with close friends and family with 50¢ taken up front for food and drink - is much less likely to draw attention and get busted, than the $500 buy-in No Limit cash game with local high-rollers and the house taking a rake on every pot.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 15717 Posts
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I have run a game for ever in England. I charge £7 per seat per hour on ave. I have been busted once due a casino boss ratting because I stole some of his high rollers. They could not prove I was charging session but charged me with providing booz, later the they droped the change. But it is illegal here and over there. Everyone is entitled to my opinion and in my opinion the law on gambling is an ass. I have never understood whats wrong and why it is illegal to run a game of poker and charge a fee. But it is, such is life.
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2479 Posts
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I am not a lawyer....but, don't call it a "rake" for the house in a home game. You are simply collecting money from the pots to help pay for food, beverages, entertainment, etc.
Maybe call it a non-profit "rake" which is redistributed to players in food and drink
That is what we did in home games.
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Danny Diamond Inner circle Connecticut 1400 Posts
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On 2006-10-05 09:08, Expertmagician wrote: That is exactly what we do - but whether you call it a collection, donation, rake, whatever - if it is a forced/mandatory payment that you collect, it is illegal. What I do, is have a jar out for “optional” donations for food/drink. Since most of my players are friends/family, it is simply understood that $1 per player is sufficient and appreciated. But like I've been saying - your local police department would have to be pretty darn bored to break up a friendly little $20 game!
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Danny Diamond Inner circle Connecticut 1400 Posts
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I just got an email from one of the sites I play(ed) on, telling me they are closing my account because of the new law. It makes me feel very defeated.
You don't drown by falling in the water;
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