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Oyama Inner circle Portland, OR. 1054 Posts |
Vinsmagic
Then you know what I say is the truth.
"it's better to live one day as a lion, than a thousand years as a lamb."
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
I am not saying yousr si not the best I havent seen it please send me a demo
vinsmagic@aol.com\ so I can see your effect in action vinny |
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BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2537 Posts |
Take a look at this charming performance by Michael Vincent. (The video quality isn't great, but watch it anyway.) His closing effect for this little segment is an ACAAN effect. (OK, strictly speaking, it's a SCAAN effect, but Michael has framed it so the audience will remember it as ACAAN.) If you know anything about methods for the ACAAN effect, you probably will roll your eyes when you see this performance.
But take a closer look at Michael's performance. The show has a theme and a connecting thread. When Michael arrives at his ACAAN effect, he's done some important things to frame the effect. Take a look at what Michael treats as important and what he treats as unimportant. Notice how Michael subtly creates a situation in which the audience members will remember exactly what Michael wants them to remember. In this way, he has created a miracle. Michael's show is greater than the sum of its parts. Oyama says he knows of methods for ACAAN that allow the audience members to remember every detail of the effect, but such methods are next to worthless unless you have something that's better than a mere magic trick. Let's try a little thought experiment. Imagine that I could rub a magic lamp and produce a powerful Genie who could grant me one of these two magical wishes: 1) An ACAAN method that will allow audience members to remember every detail of the effect, yet still be fooled. or 2) Presentational skills that would make even Michael Vincent jealous. I know exactly what I'd choose...
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."
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Oyama Inner circle Portland, OR. 1054 Posts |
You don't need a video. It is what I say it us.
I have 3 people come up in front of a crowd. I hand volunteer one a pack of cards in their box. I ask volunteer 2 to name a card. I ask volunteer 3 to name a number between 1 and 52. Volunteer 1 removes the cards from the box and they deal to the number named. The card is turned over...it is the named card. This is what you would see on video. Actually...I prefer to have 1 card in full view the entire time. After a card is named and a number, I turn the card over and it is the named card and written on the card is the named number. A 1 in 2,704 chance... Remember, I am a mentalist, not a magician. I have MANY more tools in my tool box. Magicians have the same tools, they just choose to let them rust without use.
"it's better to live one day as a lion, than a thousand years as a lamb."
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
Barry wrote:
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Imagine that I could rub a magic lamp and produce a powerful Genie who could grant me one of these two magical wishes: Me too, Barry!
"Love God, laugh more, spend more time with the ones you love, play with children, do good to those in need, and eat more ice cream. There is more to life than magic tricks." - Scott F. Guinn
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BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2537 Posts |
Oyama,
I've never seen you work. For all I know, you may have the greatest ACAAN that's ever been created. I hope I get a chance to see you bewilder and beguile an audience. You did say one other thing that I found to be amusing and immature: Quote:
Remember, I am a mentalist, not a magician. I have MANY more tools in my tool box. Magicians have the same tools, they just choose to let them rust without use. I just returned from Magic Con in San Diego where I saw Juan Tamariz perform. (If you ever get the chance to see Juan do a show, drop everything and go.) Juan isn't a mentalist; he's just a mere magician. I'm not a mentalist, but I'll go out on a limb and make a prediction. I predict that if you were to sit down with Juan and compare notes, you'd find that Juan has many more tools in his tool box than you do. (Even if you are a mentalist.) One last thing. If you're going to make claims about your act and your supposed superiority to other human beings, please show us the courtesy of posting under your own name. If you aren't willing to take ownership and accountability for your opinions, nobody is going to take you seriously. As Forrest Gump used to say, "And that's all I got to say about that."
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Oyama talk is cheap lets see it in action,,I have many tools in my tool box with out rust.
I also can perform many of my own CAAN effecs impromptu , no stooges ,no gimmicks no mem deck , no deck switching . but I use slght of hand and it s just as convincing as yours so there is no rust,,,, but it is not the grail. put up a demo so we as magicians can see yur effect |
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Oyama Inner circle Portland, OR. 1054 Posts |
I have posted my real name.
I am not trying to say I am better then anyone else, I am saying a mentalist will use tools that MOST magicians won't. Am I wrong? If you think I am, drop me a PM with your email and I will gladly send you my thoughts on ACAN. Then you can come on the Café and prove that what I said is true. It will prove my point that most magicians think about method FIRST, then the entertainment of the crowd comes second. Again...if you think I am wrong, I will send you my "work". You can then post about how you would never use the methods even though it allows for a completly hands free ACAN. But as I said above, we all find the methods we like to use. Every ACAN has a method, you choose the one you love to use. I found the one that I like to use that fits the criteria I think an ACAN should have. It's not for everyone. Aaron Enyeart Posted: Mar 31, 2010 12:57am The method I am talking about can be found in a book called "Psychological Subtleties 2" by Banachek. End of my discussion here.
"it's better to live one day as a lion, than a thousand years as a lamb."
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R.E. Byrnes Inner circle 1206 Posts |
"The effect performed in Parkinson Show is already on the market
( it is the best case of m*** d*** version) and the second one is uses st*** or p** this is inane. do we assume non-magicians don't know what a "m*** d***" is? and for 50 posts you get the missing letters through access to a secret forum? the dopey rule and splitting of forums just truncates otherwise good discussions. |
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Gianni Special user WILMINGTON, DE 993 Posts |
[quote]On 2011-02-19 21:14, R.E. Byrnes wrote:
this is inane. do we assume non-magicians don't know what a "m*** d***" is? [/quote/ I highly doubt laymen know this. What would make you think they do? Gianni |
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J.Warrens Inner circle Canada 1098 Posts |
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On 2011-02-19 21:14, R.E. Byrnes wrote: LOL. I understand your point, but I don't think this is really something that a non-magician would understand because it's not a m*** d*** anyways! It's actually a m***** d***! |
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entermagic Special user 810 Posts |
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On 2011-02-19 21:14, R.E. Byrnes wrote: From an old post (look on this forum) Richard Kaufmann says that this is the best case of the: Affected by Berglas by Marc Paul. I add just that there is a part missing as the Marc asks the girl to think of a card. MP |
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Pomyles New user Here 79 Posts |
Fascinating thread with so many references and interesting opinions. Thanks to all of you.
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
Nice to see this thread necro'd. I don't believe in a "best" except for signing "Best, Vlad." (I quit using Namaste because a certain quadruped who was a troll here and now resides at Genii decided to make a post making fun of the greeting. C'est la guerre.
Anyhow ... Tommaso Guglielmi has done considerable work on ACAAN. Perhaps I am biased because I assisted in editing some of his manuscripts, but, Tommy really has some amazing approaches to the plot. And no, I didn't and don't receive money from Tommy for my services. But I felt that Tommy's name needed mentioning for anyone just reading the newest posts in this thread. Raphael Czaja has a cool approach called SCAMP. It's not a pure ACAAN but well worth a look and the price is very low. Cameron Francis' Convergence is superb too. Best , Vlad |
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts |
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On 2010-03-30 22:37, BarryFernelius wrote: Very good version for laymen But magicians seems to looking for a version with "no method" or a version with a method that it hard to reconstruct for them and that's not the case here because the method is classical. But the performance and the "audience management" is very interesting. |
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BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2537 Posts |
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Very good version for laymen Agreed! I would venture to say that magicians who don't know the classical method would be fooled as well. In Michael's version, I know what the audience will remember: 1. One spectator freely choose a number from 1 to 52. The process was utterly fair. This number was written on a blank card. 2. From a spectator shuffled deck, another spectator freely selected a random card. The card was also written on the blank card. 3. A deck that had been selected by the audience and sitting in its box was in plain sight during the entire show. An audience member removed the deck from the box. Michael never touched anything. 4. The cards were dealt by the spectator, and the random card was found at the freely selected number. 5. The most important thing that everyone will remember is how Michael treated the audience and how he made them feel. Too many magicians are looking for the perfect ACAAN method. Let's face it; the perfect method doesn't exist. Frankly, many of these methods result in performances that are boring to watch. Instead, magicians might want to focus on performing ACAAN in a way that will thrill their audiences.
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts |
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On 2013-09-08 15:21, BarryFernelius wrote: How true this is! Great analyse! |
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Pomyles New user Here 79 Posts |
There is a world where perfection exists : marketing
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
THE DEVILS ACAAN ,,,,,,,IS THE CLOSEST THING TO REALITY IMHO
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STM70 New user 58 Posts |
Personally I love performing Convergence by Cameron Francis. So easy, yet so so powerful.
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