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tenchu Inner circle Europe 1117 Posts |
Hey guys,
This will be a shameless plug, but maybe my impromptu approach to this classic will interest some of you. You can find it here: http://www.lybrary.com/casus-p-132614.html If you have any questions about it, just ask. Best, Mike |
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magicthree Special user 619 Posts |
Mike, can you tell us a little more about it than what's in the description. Thanks
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tenchu Inner circle Europe 1117 Posts |
Sure, magicthree. As usual, the Devil is in the details, and the description is maybe too good to be true, but this is exactly what the spectators will see and will remember.
Some time ago Mr. Frame reviewed this effect (you can check it here: http://forums.geniimagazine.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=37826) and I don't blame him for not liking the method. But, I don't agree with him on the moment in the routine with counting the cards. I agree that a lot of people can do things without demonstrating it first, but there are some routines that have such casual moments (that usually provide a moment of misdirection), which fly by and no one has a problem with it. Maybe the description is a bit too "dry" (and if that is the case, I apologize), but anyone who had some performing experience will know how to casually do it so no one will be suspicious. Thankfully I never had anyone saying "Hey, I'm not that stupid. I can count the cards myself" to me (or maybe I'm just lucky and I always have a polite audience members?), and judging by the reactions it just works, and it fools people. You just have to try it and see it for yourself. Best, Mike |
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migwar Elite user west yorkshire, UK 457 Posts |
Is the version that Michael Vincent uses published. I'll admit it fooled me bad
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migwar Elite user west yorkshire, UK 457 Posts |
I was lead to the effect by seeing it done by another magician. I personally couldn't perform in parrot fashion without at least seeing if it was published. It used 2 basics of card magic however at some point someone put those pieces together. Everyone draws their lines differently I guess.
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nicolasmtg Veteran user Argentina 378 Posts |
Hehe if I told you which is the method I use you will hate me but I put some subleties that's make it foolproof and neva eva someone tell me about a bold action
its just a control to top and DL xP
--------Magician and director at NONTRICKS.COM--------
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nicolasmtg Veteran user Argentina 378 Posts |
Hehe if I told you which is the method I use you will hate me but I put some subleties that's make it foolproof and neva eva someone tell me about a bold action
its just a control to top and DL xP
--------Magician and director at NONTRICKS.COM--------
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BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2537 Posts |
I'm more concerned with the 'whys' behind the choices that Michael made. Here are a few questions that might be answered in a publication. The reasons behind the answers will put some meat on those bones.
1. Why does Michael give one woman a choice of decks in the beginning? What is he trying to accomplish by doing this? 2. The opener is a variation of Alex Elmsley's effect Fate's Datebook. (The handling is very similar to the one described by Michael Close in Workers 5.) When and how does Michel acquire the necessary information? How much importance does he give this procedure? Why does Michael have the woman shuffle the cards? Why does he use the selection procedure that he uses? Why is it important that Michael allows the woman to change her mind? How does he frame the revelation at the end? 3. The second effect is a simple card transposition. How does Michael take this simple effect and make it fit his personality? How does he make it memorable? How does he make it feel impossible? How has he adjusted the pacing of this effect, when compared to his first trick? 4. The 'Card at Any Number' is the final trick in this set. Why is it performed last? How has Michael's performance of the first two effects set up this trick? How does Michael set audience expectations for the climax? How does he make the effect seem so important? Why does he have the number and the card written on an index card? How does the selection procedure look when compared to the selection procedure in the first trick? How does Michael lead the audience to believe that both decks are ordinary decks? How does Michael guide the audience believe that the selection of the card and the selection of the number are both random events? How does Michael make the whole thing look as though he did NOTHIING, that everything was out of his control? How does Michael show that the first deck isn't in any special order? How does he frame the handling of the ending to get the response that he desires? 5. If you KNOW that you have a better method, you might still discover that Michael's performance has more impact than yours. You might want to dissect your method and presentation to see why it's not as effective as you'd like it to be. What can you learn from Michael's performance to make sure that your superior method is appreciated by the audience? What magic power are you demonstrating when you perform ACAAN? Do you perform it as part of a routine? If so, how have you constructed the routine? What do you want the audience to feel and remember when they see you perform this effect?
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."
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BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2537 Posts |
Thanks; glad you enjoyed the questions.
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."
-Leonard Bernstein |
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PIPO New user Madrid SPAIN 82 Posts |
One of the best ACAAN versions I know is actually from a friend of mine, Mr. Carlos Vinuesa and it was recently published in English. It fooled me sooooo bad, you can find in his book (Numbers, Cards... and Time!) among some other variations on the plot like a totally (regualr deck) impromptu double ACAAN routine
http://www.carlosvinuesa.com/libro3.html Here is a video of the impromptu double ACAAN routine called "Twins without Jokers", the bizarre presentation is optional, no threads, no magnets... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_1W-FNczc Regards |
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Robert P. Special user Kansas 632 Posts |
Two of my favorites are Barrie Richardson's Impromptu ACAAN and Simon Caine's The Stained Glass Effect. Both are different and would be used in different types of situations. I like how Barrie uses his and really involves the audience, with Simon's I love how the number or position isn't revealed until the very end (the magician doesn't even know).
Magic Café threads: Barrie Richardson's Impromptu ACAAN Simon Caine's The Stained Glass Effect |
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puggo Inner circle 2022 Posts |
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On 2013-09-13 11:48, tenchu wrote: I'll share the following for those that may want a wide range of references on the ACAAN/CAAN plot. I speak with Mike on occasions and he recently shared this effect with me. I am not a real big ACAAN fan, but have performed it in the past using a m-deck stack. I have not used it much as most of my work is strolling and I prefer FASDIU. I have on occasions used a CAAN type effect by John Carey - simple, effective and fun. Some other effects I have seen from Mike have either been moderately difficult (sleight wise) or needed a table, or both. After reading through the manuscript with cards in hand, I noticed a few things. The description and illustrations made it very easy to learn, it can be done in the hands and it is not technically demanding. Anyhow, I never got round to trying it at the weekend gigs, but did try it today (for friends/colleagues). I think that this is a good, usable effect and if you are a fan of CAANs, it is well worth a look. I won't use it at every gig as the card magic I normally perform is normally snappier than ACAAN or CAAN, but I will add this to my repertoire for those moments when the time is right. Charlie |
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captainsmiffy Special user UK, resident UAE 589 Posts |
I have evolved a way of doing the Barrie Richardson effect without the 'move' that is called for in the manuscript if anybody is interested.
Best, Martyn
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
All I can say the Devils ACAAN when performed at the right venue is better than the Berglass effect . that's right you heard me the first time....
with the Berglass effect,there are many outs not so with the devils effect.I performed the devils ACAAN informanally at the Magiic Castle and the audience was stunned and their jaws dropped when the selected card fell at the selected number,,, vinny |
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markymarkmagicuk Loyal user UK 277 Posts |
I've enjoyed reading all the comments and posts regarding the classic Berglass Effect and the one performed by Marc Paul on a UK chat show. I just have to add my comment. I believe 100% that Marc's TV version used a stooge.. how can I be sure... My wife and I were at the BBC recording of this show, look closely at the entire show and we are in the 3rd row of the studio audience. The reason I comment, is I can assure you that what you watched on TV is NOT what we saw in the studio, just to say some clever editing, and during the performance the host gave a wrong number initially, then changed to one digit higher.
Make of that what you will. I'm convinced there was pre-show set up. that's it, not gonna go on about it, Im sure this subject will always remain a mystery. |
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Mike Ince Inner circle 2041 Posts |
Markymarkmagicuk, pre-sh*w and stooging are different things. Stooging is a bad idea. The other is common and is no more cheating than any other method.
The secret of deception is in making the truth seem ridiculous.
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brad12d3 Special user 526 Posts |
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On 2013-12-18 11:48, Mike Ince wrote: Very true. I do not think a stooge was used, however there was definitely pre show work. If you read Berglas' Book then you will understand more or less how he did it. |
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R.E. Byrnes Inner circle 1206 Posts |
Woody Aragon's is cool
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brad12d3 Special user 526 Posts |
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On 2013-12-19 01:32, R.E. Byrnes wrote: This was my favorite for a long time. It could very easily produce a super clean hands off ACAAN. The inner workings are rather brilliant. |
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jozefk New user 54 Posts |
I have a trick, and its plot is similar to ACAAN's plot. It is called CCARN (Chosen Card At Random Number). The effect is this: Any card is selected [say the King of Spades] and then buried into the deck by the spectator. Using a 2nd deck, a number is very fairly generated, again by the spectator [let's say 25]. You won't believe this, but... the 25th card now dealt to in the 1st deck is the King of Spades!
Read more: http://the-magic-of-jozsef-kovacs.webnod......l-offer/ |
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