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chrismatt
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I've mentioned a few of the versions that I've thought of in other threads. Here are the links to my posts or the actual posts if anyone is interested:

9/9/06: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=4716028

2/15/03:
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Those of you who use a memorized deck and pinky (or thumb) count to place the named card into the proper position: Why don't you just edge-mark your memorized deck so that every fifth card is marked? That way you won't have to do so much counting.

And here's another secret: edge mark your cards at the inner end with inked dots of DIFFERENT colors: 5, 15, 25, 35 and 45 in blue; 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 in black. It makes counting to the correct card very easy. (Edge marking cards in various colors--blue, black, red & green [originally for the four suits: Clubs, Spades, Hearts and Diamonds]--is something I came up with years ago after reading Thompson & Rutledge's "Between Two Minds")

Note: The above is still several steps away from the ultimate ACAAN effect, in which the performer does not touch the deck.



later on in that same thread, I wrote:
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On 2003-02-15 03:40, chrismatt wrote:
Many cardicians and mentalists consider ACAAN to be the "holy grail" of mentalism with cards. I don't know how Berglas does his version. I don't have his book, and I'm not sure he even "tips" everything therein.

I've never actually done the following, but I've thought about rigging up a table drawer so that it would deliver just one deck (of several--each stacked in a different, cyclic order) into the drawer, which would be opened by the S after she names any card and calls out any number. As Richardson points out, by cycling the cards, you would need only 13 decks, although you do need quite a complicated crib, telling you not only which deck to use, depending on which card and number are called out, but which counting procedure to use. Can this number of decks be further reduced? Perhaps, although you would require an even more complicated crib.

How could this be done with fewer than 13 decks? Almost every card could be counted to in eight separate ways (using eight different numbers) in each deck. For example, the tenth card from the top could be counted to from the numbers 9 and 10 (counting from the top) and from the numbers 42 and 43 (counting from the face). By leaving the two advertising cards ("Rank of Hands" and the other ad card) on the face and the two Jokers on top, these cards could be included (or not) in the counting, so that the tenth card could ALSO be counted to from the numbers 11 and 12 (from the top) and 44 and 45 (from the face). The S (who does the counting) would either remove the advertising/Joker cards (or not) before he begins the counting. Mind you, I've never actually sat down and figured out if this would work, but I think it might. If the very low (1 and 2) and very high (51 and 52) numbers were eliminated, you might be able to do this with only 6 or 7 decks, but I'm not sure--it's just a concept I've had.

As for Ted Lesley's version relying on a stooge, I understand Simon Aronson also has such a version. The stooge concept is apparently hidden by employing two spectators, only one of whom is a stooge (one S calls out the name of any card and the other calls out any number), and by repeating the effect (in which the roles of the spectators are reversed).

Another approach that comes to mind involves a tricky card box that holds back or releases certain numbers of cards as you remove the cards from the container (performing sort of a mechanically assisted pass).

Instantly knowing where in the deck any randomly named card lies is powerful knowledge and the memorized deck achieves that goal. But that is only half of the ACAAN solution. Getting the named card to the randomly chosen number in a completely unsuspicious way is the missing piece.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......t=191990

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Does JB's methods in his book all require a memorized deck?
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Another vote for John Born's Book. Baker's Bested is the one I love to do. The magician never touches the cards at all. The spectator picks up the cards from the table, removes them from the case himself, then proceeds to deal to the thought of number. How can magic be any more direct than that. Gotta love it.
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On 2006-10-11 06:17, MField2000 wrote:
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On 2006-10-07 00:11, Chris SD wrote:
I know Berglas is supposed to have good work on the plot as well.


Yes, David Berglas's handling of "The Berglas Effect" is quite good. Superb, in fact. He's done it for me half a dozen times.

Matt Field


What? David Berglas has performed this for you a half dozen times?? Are you serious, Matt? If so, was it as impressive the 6th time as it was the first?? Do tell if you can, please...

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I have been practicing this type of effect using just a second deal. So far the results have been great. Why over work? Smile
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Marc Paul's perform a very clean one, Richard Kaufman said in the Genii forums that its extremely similar in effect if not the same as Berglas's version!

There is a youtube clip of it, very clean. You judge it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mdXIVQ-asqU

@Brian Proctor: Many magicians think that's its way better having the spectator dealing the cards.
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Asi Wind has a fantastic version in his lecture notes. Fantastic.

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Check out my effect called "The Quest"....

Jheff from JMOM gave it a great review because it is VERY easy to do:

http://www.marketplaceofthemind.com/Quest.html
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On 2006-10-07 08:59, tgplano wrote:
I use Barrie Richardson's Impromptu Card at any number with great success. It can be done on a moment's notice and is not too difficult. I like the complete impromptu nature of it.


I like John Borns book, but I perform Richardsons version most of the time.

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I've seen Richardson and Born both perform their routine and I got to say John's version wins hands down. I know John's requires more mental work but it really does blow minds with the minimal contact with the deck.
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Hello

I just signed a deal with Outlaw Effects to sell my ACAAN "The Quest" effect as a download.

You can check out the site at http://www.outlaw-effects.com as it should be up soon. Check the e-books tab on the left of the website and it should list all of the downloads available to purchase.

Jheff from JMOM gave it a great review because it is VERY easy to do:

http://www.marketplaceofthemind.com/Quest.html

Enjoy!
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I saw Barrie Richardson do ACAAN when he was in Chicago and it was good, though it felt a little bit draggy. It's in his Theater of the Mind book. I've tried ACAAN a few times with people, but I've never developed to a state where it really wows people.
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I use psychological force but it doesn't work all the time heheh
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Where is asi winds version available?
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On 2006-10-07 12:14, entity wrote:
The only downside of Born's method is that the Performer must handle the cards.

- entity


I wouldn't call it a "downside". No trick is perfect in method, else it would not be a trick but real magic.

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My current favourite method is my own (not published), even though the card is not (necessarily) thought of (I prefer not), and the magician does handle the cards briefly. It's still got the strongest reactions out of any ACAAN I've ever done, though. Smile

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On 2010-01-02 13:17, david blown wrote:
Where is asi winds version available?


Hi David:

(Don't know if this "ACAAN" is different, than what is in his lecture notes?)
"Chapter One" ("A.A.C.A.A.N.")
http://www.tannens.com/shop/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=7935

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I have often wondered if the spectators can get ahead for you w/ ACAAN? someone says Q spades, and another says 14, I wonder any thinks already " I bet its the 14th card". Could this take away from the miracle? It's something I have thought about. So I do a stop trick, one spectator shuffles the deck and they are spread on the table they pick a card they put the card back and again shuffle the deck, I do not handle deck at all during this selection and replacement process. The deck is than given to another spectator to deal cards form anywhere in the deck they want the top, bottom, or the middle. They can stop dealing when ever they want. they stop one the selected card. I have clip of it live on youtube, There is a lot of back round noise on it, but if there is any interest I could link it.
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Jmac -

I found your Youtube clip. A very nice rendition. Lot's of cutting and shuffling by the spectator. You got a very good reaction too.

This "STOP" approach seemingly gives the spectator more involvement - more control over the outcome and thus gives an even stronger "impossible outcome".

Have you tried traditional ACAAN presentations so you can compare the reactions?
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I LOVE Asi Wind's version... It's brilliant.
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