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Charles Adams Regular user Silver Spring, MD 158 Posts |
Before anyone gets wrapped around the axle that this is not a purse palm ( the classic description of which has the coin held between the base of the first and third fingers ), this is in fact what Dean Dill calls this grip on this Extreme Dean Vol. 1 DVD in the Sleights section. Anyhow I have always been intrigued by the extrememly visual nature of his work and decided it was time for me to tackle one. I have been struggling with his purse palm technique and wondered if anyone had any tips to share.
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Charles Adams Regular user Silver Spring, MD 158 Posts |
As I have watched these sequences over and over to learn the moves I am beginning to wonder how deceptive they really are. The hand is so curved and there is so much tension. Does anyone else share this concern?
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Paul Chosse V.I.P. 1955 - 2010 2389 Posts |
I have no idea what Dean's "Purse Palm" is, or how it differs from a traditional Purse Palm, or Morritt Grip. Can someone explain?
On another note, and again, without having seen the sleight in question, any tension is a "tell", so you are obviously right, you need to address this. Unless there is some "sucker" element to the palm, as with the "Spider Vanish", there oughtn't to be any tension - if you aren't doing anything then what's the stress, Bub? - so what's that all about? Anyone? I am really curious... Thanks in advance for the education, PSC
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rutabaga Inner circle Toronto, Canada 1283 Posts |
This forum might be a little too open to discuss this in detail.
What coins are you using? Obviously, fit is important in obtaining a more natural looking hand position... also, you can adjust exactly where on the fingers you grip the coin. I think most spectators understand that something is happening under the hands... Dean seems to use a little movement which I think covers the sleight pretty well. Paul, PM'd you. |
Mano Inner circle 1028 Posts |
That is the reason I came up with the manolift, because the tension in the hand when you purse palm a coin the way Dean,and others magicians do from the mat.
the manolift is basicly the morrit grip or purse palm which it is using the index and ring finger as a tweezer to grip a coin or a shell and lift it up from a mat,or class or wooden surface,etc; and the hand stay relaxed and not tension at all; it is a very difficult slight to master, very difficult. In the la Famiglia DVD, by The godfather Vinni Marini, I have an effect I perform using the mano lift,The name of the effect is called Demagnetized Raven, and the title says it all. all the best. Mano. |
Charles Adams Regular user Silver Spring, MD 158 Posts |
Dill's purse palm is gripping the ] coin with the tips of the first and fourth fingers and lifting it.
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Mano Inner circle 1028 Posts |
Well, that is the way dean dill does it and I think he calls it purse palm.
mano. |
Charles Adams Regular user Silver Spring, MD 158 Posts |
Yes Mano, Dean Dill very clearly calls his grip a purse palm, perhaps he should rename this to avoid confusion.
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Mano Inner circle 1028 Posts |
Hi baldr6797,
I agree with you, a different name would do it. peace. Mano. |
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