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Sodman,

Usually a mitt-man steals a card on one round to be introduced in another round. It's that "in-between" time that is dangerous, because if the deck is counted (whether by man or machine) while he's holding out he'll have to ditch the card somewhere.

That said, there are ways (at least in theory), to swap cards with someone sitting next to you, or even across the table from you in an effort to construct a better hand. This is perhaps more aptly called "switching", but it's in the same ballpark as mucking in terms of what it accomplishes.

In these cases, the deck always contains the proper number of cards if and when they're counted, so it's a bit safer from that perspective.

Hold 'em is the dominant game today, and because there are only 2 non-community cards, mucking isn't as big a factor as it once was in games like lowball, 7-stud, and draw.

It's still possible though.

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My cash games are almost always dealers choice Omaha. That is, it's Omaha but the dealer button choice on how many cards.. sometimes 6 card Omaha. Depends on how many players but they nearly always call for the max. So you can call 4,5 or 6 if there is enough cards to go around.
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Ahh Omaha. that's one of the craziest games to play. esp. when the people you play with only play holdem. people thinking there Q/K high flush is good. and when theres a pair on the board watch out!
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On 2006-11-09 17:26, sodman12 wrote:
But if you were mucking your only switching out cards for different ones not changing the amount in play.

Am I missing something?


Hi Sodman12

Little confusing here with the use of the term "mucking". Here in the United States when playnig poker the term "mucking" means throwing your current hand away. What exactly does it refer to in your context?

Also here in the Casios if at any time your cards ever go beneath the table edge when holding them you are out of the current pot (your hand is dead).
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Yes Mucking has two menings: To muck your hand in poker is to pass your hand, it goes into the muck pile, that is cards not in play.
To Muck a card in cardsharp terms is to palm cards.. steal them. Usually so you can switch them in for other cards later.

But I myself get confussed with some terms as most come from the USA. Perhaps someone could explain it better than me but I will give it a go:

We have "Hold Out" devices which are contraptions for serving a card into the hand.

But we have "Holding Out" which is haveing stolen cards from the game your holding them out of the game which might be held anywhere.

"Mucking" = Palming.

Terms from magic and the card table and poker often get mixed up. A Shark for example is not a cheat to a poker player just a good player.
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