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Scott Xavier
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Yeah 2 million plus viewers get to watch endurance feats mixed with some brilliant magic in a cinematic hi-def master piece. Sounds anti-climactic indeed.
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On 2006-11-13 13:22, Alex Linian wrote:
That would be a bad idea... David's magic is about it's effect on people and it's meaning, not about who does the better trick. Magicians need to realize people don't care about that anymore.


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On 2006-11-26 09:38, Scott Xavier wrote:
Yeah 2 million plus viewers get to watch endurance feats mixed with some brilliant magic in a cinematic hi-def master piece. Sounds anti-climactic indeed.


I'm talking about the stunt itself. Most of his stunts end with; "That's it. I did it. I'm done." Which is in fact anti climatic.

I'm glad he made it for the sake of the kids. Other than that, I wasn't particularly interested.
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Then why do you keep posting?

Man I was there and it was awesome. The interaction between him and the people was the best part. It was what magic is about. People were cheering for their hero, and it was amazing.


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On 2006-11-13 13:22, Alex Linian wrote:
That would be a bad idea... David's magic is about it's effect on people and it's meaning, not about who does the better trick. Magicians need to realize people don't care about that anymore.


Wanna bet?


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"And I don't understand why people take the time to post on something "they don't care" about. Makes no sense."

Good point on your previous post Alex.

I do like the fact that DB has gotten ALOT of people interested in MAGIC ... The art we all love so much.
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Was this on TV? Can you find it online anywhere?
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I think his stunts are great, especially when they go into days. I have never seen his stunts in person, but I bet the atmosphere around it would be wild. I think it would be visually interesting to see a person out in the open doing these kinda things especially when their long periods of time, it adds to the persona of the magician. This is just my opinion.
I wonder if his next stunt will be "Dive of Death".
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On 2006-11-13 06:59, ku7uk3 wrote:
Maybe they should do a network special...

David Blaine Vs. Criss Angel.

Have them perform on the streets trying to out-do each other. Now that is a special I want to see!

Good competition usually sparks better magic (or more convincing stooges)!

ku7uk


Skip the stooges! Just have Angel and Blaine square off and start doing tricks!! Criss challenged Blaine to just that some months ago, but Blaine declined.

Good thing for Blaine, because Angel would have destroyed him in any contest!!
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Like I said Blaine is the one of best magicians of the modern era.
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Of "modern era" magicians that I've seen, I think Cyril is better. Of "street magicians" nobody touches Gazzo.

Blaine's good, he's just not the end all and be all of magic!
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On 2006-12-12 23:49, expand your consciousness wrote:
Like I said Blaine is the one of best magicians of the modern era.

Good gracious my friend, regardless of whether you're particularly pro-Blaine, or anti-Blaine, one thing that certainly ISN'T true is that he's one of the best magicians of any era.

Simply go to the Magic Castle any day of the week and you'll see real magicians doing magic so far in advance of what Blaine is capable of you'll rush back to your computer to withdraw the statement you've made above.

Blaine is certainly a good magician and a good promoter, but "best" is reserved for those who truly excell.
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I have to wonder if this guy actually goes out and looks for magicians, or does he sit at home and watch what's being presented. In which case it's Blaine and Angel. (My daughter adores Chris Angel. I think he screams too much!) Copperfield hasn't had a special in years and his last one had that stupid Tornado of Fire and the self saw-in-half both of which seemed to be David trying to follow along in Blaine's style which was a <major> mistake as they're too dissimilar.

Penn & Teller had a special awhile back, but they're mostly debunking nonsense and Lance Burton hasn't been on TV in awhile.

I think there's a half hour series set in the Castle on A&E. I haven't seen it yet. I'm not totally certain if it's a series or was just a special. At any rate, maybe we'll get some reaction on some hard core magic types!
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On 2006-12-12 23:49, expand your consciousness wrote:
Like I said Blaine is the one of best magicians of the modern era.


As Silverking posted, Blaine may be a lot of things but he is by no means one of the best magicians of the modern era. Perhaps the most popular, and in some respects the man responsible for bringing magic back into popularity in the public eye, and yes he can be a good entertainer if you're into the whole "mysterious stranger" thing, but best? His pure sleight of hand is nowhere in comparison to the likes of many modern magicians, let alone his showmanship.
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I'm really not anti-Blaine or pro-Blaine, and my personal opinion is that, like Houdini before him (who BTW I believe Blaine is making a determined and brilliant effort to emulate) he's simply a master of his medium, which happens to be television.

But when you have guys like Lennart Green in close-up, and Kalin and Jinger in stage-illusions, and newcomers like Arthur Trace with brilliantly staged routines.....you quickly see that Blaine doesn't have the same chops, nor will he likely ever.
The real mistake is to presume he feels lacking without them, or that he aspires to have them in the first place.

What Blaine-O-philes want DB to be, and what he himself has become are often two different things.
It's overstatement for me to say that floating in a ball filled with water, or standing on top of a pole, or stepping into a block of ice isn't magic, and doesn't require a magician to accomplish.

I doubt strongly that DB would disagree with such statements, and in fact efforts to pigeon hole him as "only" a magician might be strongly debated by DB's own promotion machine. That machine wants to see him as much more than a magician, they want him to be seen (like Houdini before him) as a cultural icon and master of his medium.
If achieved, this would place Blaine far beyond the fame one could garner as a magician. In many ways the initial impression is that he's already well on his way to such accomplishment.
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On 2006-12-01 10:24, Alex Linian wrote:
Then why do you keep posting?


Because I like discussing him and the things he does. You'll notice I've never really ripped Mr. Blaine. I've even commented that I like him and think he's pretty good, just not the greatest magician and certain not the greatest "street" magician.
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He may not be the best "street magician" but he certainly branded the term and without him there wouldn't be an Ellusionist or a Street Magic section in almost all online resellers. Not that that's a good thing -- just a reality.
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Let me expand on my previous statement about Blaine being "one of the best". When I pass through the topics, maybe he's not one of the best, hard for me to say, but what I meant is that he has been one of the most influential magicians to up and coming magicians in the last ten years, this would be hard to debate. Yes there are many other great magicians around, but none in recent times has had as much impact as Blaine. I mean, I can bet more than half of the individuals on these forums can say "I was inspired by David Blaine". Plus I dig the fact that you literally only hear or see him when he does his tv specials, then he's gone for 1 or 2 years.
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I can bet more than half of the individuals on these forums can say "I was inspired by David Blaine".

You'd lose that bet here on the Café my friend. You need to look through a few more forums that you currently are if you truly think this is the case.

Maybe over at the Penguin or Ellusionist forums you could make some money, but here on the Café you'd be the one ponying up the cash to pay off.
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Ah Silverking, try again. Most the magicians on here don't post, but rather read. The ones we read most often are fanatical right wing extremists who hate anyone on tv because they can do it better. I say pony up and show me your specials...
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I was working regularly when David Blaine hit the airwaves. He inspires me to change the channel.

Now as for him, he went from being a complete unknown, to being a huge star. Like him or not, he is huge. I happen to change the channel when he is on, BUT I also change the channel when Bono opens HIS mouth, does NOT make him less of a star? Obviously not. David Blaine is for better or worse a star of large magnitude. (Unlike Scott I don't worship him, but feel the devil should get his due)

I do get frustrated with the hero worship camp, and the other extreme. BUT Scott when you make large sweeping generalities as you just did, it is silly. You have to stop the hero worship for you look just as silly as those who deny who Blaine is.

I don't think I could do it better than he does, heck I don't know if I would want too. It is not a goal of mine any more than being a stage illusionist is. I have no jealousy, I simply don't like to watch him. Can this be true without being a right wing extremist?

Oh and do me a favor and explain what political affiliation has to do with David Blaine anyhow. You throw these terms arround, define them for us please.
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