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antdowg
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Anybody willing to help I'm reading jean hugard the royal roadto card magic and I cant seem to figure it out even the overhand shuffle
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What is it exactly that is confusing you? I do not actually own the Royal Road but from what I have read and understand it is incredibly detailed in text and pictures.
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Antdowg

it takes practice to do all the stuff. You need to train your muscle memory . . .

It all looks very easy in the book - but the sad truth is, it is not. You need a lot of practice. So just carry on practicing, give it time and you will see that it will all work out.

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May I suggest using buying a video?

I found it VERY hard to learn how to do card slights froma book, I'm a more visual learner. The 2 best videos I can raccomend are:

Basic- by Richard Kaufman

The Art of Card Manipulation Vol. 1- by Jeff McBride

don't get me wrong, books are great, but learn the basics via video and then expand with books (that's what I did!)

hope that helps!

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I must put in a word here - I agree that DVDs are very easy to learn from and that makes them a great teaching tool, especially for the beginner to learn basic sleights and whatnot, but I would never suggest The Art of Card Manipulation for someone looking to get into the realm of card magic. I cannot speak for Basic because I have never seen it, but I would not start with manipulation. I would have to suggest Michael Ammar's Easy To Master Card Miracles Vol 1 as a good starting point. Also Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic (book) is the very best all encompassing book on beginning magic that you can find. It gives "newbies" a look at virtually every category of magic to date, for them to pick and choose what style suits them or appeals to them most. It also contains nearly a full 200 pages on card magic.My recommendation after ETMCM Vol1 would be Double Take by Gregory Wilson (DVD).
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First thing: Slow Down. Read Each step. Then do the effect SLOWLY. Only speed up when the slow motion is fluid. Okay, that's five.
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The folks at Go Magic Go have a set of beginner's podcasts that are going through the Royal Road to Card Magic. You might want to check these out at http://www.gomagicgo.com
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The three rules of magic...
#1. Practice
#2. Practice
#3. PRACTICE
Some things never change.
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Absolutely Bob. Sadly seems to go lacking a lot these days on people who want instant gratification!

Ah well.

But yes, a book can be awkward to learn from, but you must be patient with it. AS suggetsed, there are many DVDs out there that can bring them to life - once you have seen the moves perfromed well, then the book should pose no problem to go back to.

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G'day antdowg.
As SteveTheMagician mentions above, Basic by Richard Kaufman will compliment nicely the book you are having probs with.
Richard Kaufman visually and verbally explains most of the terms you have read, and the exact hand/finger positions required.
Having watched, and practised 'Basic' even a little, you will be able to return to Jean Huggards book, understanding, and being able to apply much more. Then, as others have said, practise etc etc etc.
* May I offer you a training tip which worked for me, using the 'Basic' DVD ?
I simply started at the first thing Mr Kaufman did, .. then, having gotten that down to a reasonable degree, went on to the next,and so on, but never simply going straight to and just doing say,.. manouver number 5 - I had to start at number 1 and work my way to the last thing I learnt, and so on. It gave me good foundations,- from there I was able to learn and apply a couple of really exellent effects, which I am still happy to perform anywhere, on nearly any angle.
Anyway mate, - Best of luck, - whatever road you choose.
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Don't spend too much time placing your fingers exactly as he explains. Focus more on doing the shuffling part and your fingers will find a position that works best for you. When you get into more complex sleights, your finger positioning will be more critical and require more attention.

I read the instructions on the overhand shuffle, and realized that I don't do it anything like Jean explains. Try to practice more as if you were just playing a card game, sit down in front of the TV and just keep shuffling the cards letting your subconscious do all the work. When you are performing, and start shuffling the cards, it should look like a quick mixing of the cards, not a carefully practiced "move". There are plenty of flashy cuts and shuffles, but most people associate those with the magician doing something tricky. Unless you are trying to show your skill with cards, everything should look very natural. You should be able to carry on a normal conversation while shuffling, and never need to look at your hands, which will come with practice.
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On 2006-12-06 22:44, ToasterofDoom wrote:
First thing: Slow Down. Read Each step. Then do the effect SLOWLY. Only speed up when the slow motion is fluid. Okay, that's five.


Toaster has the best advice of all...forget watching TV in the beginning as you do this. Concentration on the task at hand is priority in the beginning. Later when the technique is smooth you can watch TV and practice. There are two types of practice...formal and informal. "Formal" practice is concentrated practice in which the technique is first read thoroughly or watched (DVD), dissected, understood, and performed with your full, & undivided attention. Pay attenttion to detail and practice is done slowly and deliberately. Once the technique has been committed to memory (muscle) then you can engage in "informal" practice which is practicing without much thought and watching TV, waiting for your laundry to get done, etc. There is a lot of good advice given here but take it nice and slow in the beginning...that's the best advice I can give.
Good luck and have fun!
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Who needs TV anyway?
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SAdly with too much technology out there, folks are lookign for the easy way out. All though magic book reading is almost an art in itself. You almost have to teach yourself how to read and learn from a book.

First there is all the magic jargon that must be learned.
Second after reading the move, sleight, effect. you must be able to picture what
the writer is trying to get across and SEE the effect
Third then there is doing it at how YOU think it has to be done from the reading

This is where (to me) the only good thing about a DVD that comes in handy. Is seeing how someone who is proficient at doing the move executes it.

IMHO DVD's are just too easy a mind candy to learn from. Not that it is not good. But you watch a DVD..and BAM !! that's it.. that the way it has to be done. With a book you open up yuor mind to other possibilities and maybe even creat something of your own from an idea. A DVD you will try to copy exact using none of your brain. You will just be a xerox copy.

Keep reading.. (and using DVD as visual aid)Myself.. I still prefer a book over a DVD any day. Not to mention the bargain.. Many DVD there may be say a dozen effects.. a book will usually always carry more. $35 for a DVD 12 tricks $35 for a book 25-35 effects??!!

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