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Christopher Williams Inner circle Portsmouth, UK 4464 Posts |
With all the new talk of Dave Forrest's exciting 1 card link, which of the Paul Harris links do you prefer?
Cardboard connection Immaculate connection Osmosis They are all found in AoA2, pages 67 onwards. Thanks |
Eric Gretencord Regular user Houston, TX 170 Posts |
I really like Sylvain Mirouf's Osmosis. It's clever and the linking displays are like no other.
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Magiguy Inner circle Seattle, WA 5467 Posts |
Despite the hand cramping I get from practicing it, I prefer Immaculate Connection to Cardboard Connection, mostly because of the true impromptu nature of it. Osmosis is beautiful, as well, but requires a little set-up (even though PH offers an impromptu version in the phootnotes. I love the final sequence and also the fact that it incorporates Harry Lorayne's "Best Gosh Darn Impromptu Linking Card Effect You'll Ever See!" into the routine (and hopefully with Harry's permission). It's a tough choice between Immaculate and Osmosis. I'm not sure that I can choose.
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Charlie Justice Inner circle Mount Dora, Florida 1142 Posts |
I definitely prefer Immaculate Connection and I do it all the time. Just drop that tabled linking sequence part all together. I never liked or even practiced that part of the routine and I'm not going to change my mind about it either...lol
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RJ Hunt Elite user Lakeland, FL 466 Posts |
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On 2006-12-14 17:16, Charlie Justice wrote: The table linking is a key part...Because the psychology behind it. If you do it right and the spectators sees nothing...you are gold for a strong finish. But if done right with a "FLASH" a spectator (maybe 2) will see the cards appear to be torn but only for a split second. And when you do the fake tear they are going to relax, because they think they have it figured out. And the kicker is you are still covered and the effect has that much more impact. When the 3 donut cards are laid on the table the minds reaction is "wait I just saw that card torn" And what makes this even stronger if only one person sees the "Key" he is going to have a hell of a time trying to convince the others the card is torn or was torn. And more than likely the one who saw something is going to keep his mouth shut because you just pulled off another miracle and he is now wondering if he is crazy or maybe he had too much to drink. This effect is one of my favorites. I have been doing it since it was first released back in 81 or 82. I still have the original Stars of Magic booklet. The tabled linking is not that difficult to master, and because of the dual psychology it is not imperative you master the link on the first try. But you should hit it at least 95% the first time and 100% the second time. The key to the key…LOL is to make sure the side striking the tabled card is under jogged and that the cards are slightly bent along their long axis. Also it takes a lot of practice. And one more thing to remember this effect is best performed for at least 4 or more people. Otherwise you have limited the psychological advantage you gain by having more spectators. Give it a try and you’ll find out it works. And you are not cheating yourself or the routine proper. As magicians and even more so as professional magicians we owe it to our fellow magicians who share their creations to learn the entire routine the way it was created and unless you are willing to do the routine proper you should not do it at all, And I was told that by Vernon himself. And I have yet to see where he was wrong. Happy Holidays RJ Sleightly Dangerous |
joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17407 Posts |
Immaculate Connection....great thinking...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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Charlie Justice Inner circle Mount Dora, Florida 1142 Posts |
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...As magicians and even more so as professional magicians we owe it to our fellow magicians who share their creations to learn the entire routine the way it was created and unless you are willing to do the routine proper you should not do it at all... Hey RJ, Good tips on that tabled link but...no thank you man. The part I didn't like about it was having to use both hands during the process. It just doesn't seem natural to approach the card on the table with 2 hands gripping the 'gaff', then letting go with one hand, link the tabled card and then have to regrip the 'gaff' after the link. It seems almost as if I would be exposing the method. Doing it all with one hand would seem more natural but as you know is not possible. I'll play with practicing it though and not dismiss the probability that I've simply not given it a chance. As to your quote that I've highlighted above, well...I respectfully disagree. If your saying that we should all do it the authors way (?) or not do it at all then I loathe to think how much magic would be stiffled from such a restriction. If we all did it the same way then where does it stop. Same patter? Same tempo? Same personality? While I 'get' what you're saying I just don't see how I 'owe it to' the author of a routine to do it exactly as he does unless I am performing 'his' effect. You know, that 'make it your own' proverb. You see the other side of this coin, right? I mean, where then would some of the most wonderful variations come from unless we change it up to suit our style? Good point, however, and well taken. And BTW, I don't mind at all looking forward to the opportunity to be chastised by Vernon well after I'm long gone as it will give me a chance to meet him myself (lol). Peace, charlie...and Happy Holidays to you too my friend! |
Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
Yeah, I'm sure I fully agree with that. First of all, I don't want to do someone else's routine the exact same way as he or she does it. I want to make it my own. And certain things that work for some people will not work for others.
I don't know in what context Vernon said that quote but I can certainly understand it from the context of practice and seeking to understand how and why certain magicians created their effects and the psychology behind them. I think it is important to fully understand an effect before varying it (not that I always do that, but I do try). The question is, are you cheating the spectators by not doing the table link? No. They won't miss it because they don't know it exists. However, if you want to do the table link, more power to you. BTW, just an interesting side note, I've seen a few magicians do "Immaculate Connection" and not one of them has done the table link.
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RJ Hunt Elite user Lakeland, FL 466 Posts |
I don't know in what context Vernon said that quote but I can certainly understand it from the context of practice and seeking to understand how and why certain magicians created their effects and the psychology behind them. I think it is important to fully understand an effect before varying it (not that I always do that, but I do try).
Exactly what I meant, After all we have to adapt our own style and what works for one don't work for all. But when learning another magician’s effect my opinion is we should learn the routine the way it was laid out. I would hope that we develop our own style and do what works for you. My Bad for sounding like a "Pompous Ass" because that's one thing I hate. But Vernon could be in fact he could take it to whole new levels, I loved the man to death but sometimes…POW!!! Right to the moon…LOL!!! Check this out...I too had a problem with the holding of the "Key" with 2 hands. It is not natural and it can cause question. So I tried a few variations including doing it one handed. And it is possible. There is a bit of misdirection and a very bold move you have to be willing to do. I will shoot you guys (Cameron and Charlie) a PM. And you can tell me what you think. |
Christopher Williams Inner circle Portsmouth, UK 4464 Posts |
Puzzling...Do we follow the professors words...or our own valued opinions...Hmmm.
Well, the professor has a point. When I learn a routine from a book or the instructions, the first thing I do is go from start to finish. I don't rush ahead and try and finish the routine before I understand it's entirety. Only when I have learnt the routine as it was originally done, do I then try to change it from the way I originally learned the routine. Sometimes I find I can't change it to make it better. However, on the other side, I agree that we shouldn't all do it the same as everyone else. Vernons most famous saying was 'Be Natural'. Well, what if what we are learning isn't natural to us? We have to change, thus making his statement above void. We all have to be unique. When in magic, it is a business. You need a USP (Unique selling point), and that is what makes us all different to each other. You need to be able to offer something that no-one else can. |
RJ Hunt Elite user Lakeland, FL 466 Posts |
When Vernon said “Be Natural” he was referring to the actions and gestures we use. Just because we are doing un-natural acts we don’t have act as such. The motions we use should not say “Hay watch me” they should be the same actions weather you are doing a trick or not. Example; How many times have you seen a magician place a coin in his hand and then point at it. Why point or over play a simple action as picking up a coin and putting in your hand. This is not natural action and this why he was the godfather of modern sleight-of-hand you never knew when the magic was going to happen and when it did you were caught off guard
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
Man, I am so guilty of pointing to the coin. I am trying to break this very bad habit because I know it's compeltely wrong. How do I know? Because I've simply place a coin into my left hand and then closed it. When I did this action, my right hand had no urge to point to the closed fist. But when I retain the coin I am supposedly putting into my hand, I think magician's guilt takes over and I just want to point at the closed left hand as if to say, "See, it's really in there!"... I'm working on it.
Now what were we talking about... Oh, yes. Linking cards.
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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
I also like immaculate connection.
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Alexis Sandler New user 13 Posts |
A vote for Osmosis from me. Although you do need to have the time and quiet to perform it effectively.
Alex |
MagicG14 New user 50 Posts |
Immaculate Connection.
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Victor-Presto New user The Netherlands 8 Posts |
I like Osmosis very much, though I think it's not a laymen-trick,
I think it's very good! |
CAROLINI Special user 607 Posts |
If there is an easier or more convincing linking card routine than that of Harry Lorayne please let me know because I have never seen it.
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Carolini: Neither have I! HARRY LORAYNE.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
http://www.harrylorayne.com http://www.harryloraynemagic.com |
joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17407 Posts |
Who was the French magician who performed Immaculate Connection on WGM,
and placed the card in his lips, instead of on the table for the final link?...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts |
To me, the Immaculate Connection is one of the most magical things you can do with three ordinary playing cards. I think it's genius.
The table link looked great when David Coppefield did it, but like Charlie, I eliminate this part of the routine. I only do the link, tear, and restoration. I've always felt that a couple of the other parts of the routine (table link, folded display) actually weaken the overall effect. Robert |
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