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Just saw this on Youtube. It sounds impossible! Anyone know anything about it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2NbcJgS7Nw
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Hmm what a beautiful linking card trick
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Wow, he has the second fastest hands in the world - after this girl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX8rshfCF2w

The link looks good by the way. Interested to hear more.
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I remember watching this a while back. I thought it was going to be released by mid-November. Hopefully it will be out before the holidays.
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I got an advanced copy at mindvention
It rocks.
Beyond brilliant, The cards are genuinely linked, no gaffs, and it can be their card.
There is a small preperation, but it can be done right in front of them.
Only drawback, it takes a couple of minutes to tear the thing up.
I'm having a little success by using small scissors to speed things up.
I love it, and, I don't know Joshua Quinn, although I sent him an e-mail to tell him how much I liked this.
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If the claims are true this is the best 'impossible giveaway' I have ever seen. Kudos to Joshua!

Cheers,
Al
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Yes, the claims are true Smile
I don't understand why there is not more excitment over this !

I personnaly like to create a very neat impossible object with no performance, and then just show it Smile It is already a real mystery since there are no cut and glue.

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I am all over this effect! Anyone know about a release date?
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Wow, I'm away from the Café for a couple days, and look what happens... Smile

Yes, I had hoped for a November release, but other professional obligations forced me to push the release back another month. At any rate, I've just received word that the manuscripts are done and will be shipped to me tomorrow. As soon as I get them I'll put up the ordering page and start taking orders. When that happens I'll post a notice in this thread, though due to the holiday madness, I probably won't start making loud promotional noises about it until after the first of the year.

Pat said, "The cards are genuinely linked, no gaffs, and it can be their card." In the interest of not misleading anyone, I would amend the last part to read, "it can sometimes be their card." I wouldn't want people to think it can be done with any card, because that's not the case. However, the "genuinely linked, no gaffs" part is completely true (as is the "It rocks. Beyond brilliant" part, of course). Glad you liked it, Pat!

Thanks to everyone for the interest. More news as it develops...
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I've had an add page for this bookmarked for some time now.

I can not wait. Any idea what the price range will be?

Thanks
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I recently received an advanced copy of Conjunction, and well...




***!

This really IS beyond brilliant! The excitement I felt after I made my first one was really something rare.

Yes, they (the rings) are REALLY linked, and examinable. There are NO gimmicks, gaffs, or otherwise. There IS a tiny bit of prep work, but it really can be done right in front of the audience. It can be done with 'almost' any card. There are limitations to the card that can be used, but the limitations are minor; the vast majority of cards you will run into will be sufficient.

There is a couple of minor drawbacks to Conjunction, but they truly are minor.

The first is the time it takes to make one. The first one I made unassisted (no scissors) took me 15 minutes! Of course, with practice, one can get this time down to around a minute to a minute and a half. I am currently at the 5 minute mark, so I have some more practice to go.

The second drawback is the lack of a definitive magic 'moment'. Whereas most linking cards are a penetration, this effect as it were, is more of the real time creation of an impossible bottle. The only ****ogy I can think of at the moment is that of making an Eng Bottle real time, with the audience none the wiser as to how. Not exactly magic, but REALLY cool, and REALLY wierd.

I am truly impressed with Mr. Quinn's ability to think outside the box; he really has brought something special to the table with this one.

DO NOT MISS THIS WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE.

Sean Fields
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Hi Quinn,

As BRILLIANT as this is, I was seriously challenged, so my sister and I got working on this idea. And SHE figured it out first!!

I have to say that I WILL buy this when it comes out, just because I would have NEVER thought of such a great idea.

After my sister showed me the secret, I figured out the way that you do it. Her geometry was different from yours (and maybe easier to cut) but the idea is the same.

I have a full routine for this effect. It will really BLOW people away while at the same time leaving the audience with an impossible object which happens to be your business card that they can keep.

Here is the routine:

The magician removes 2 frames of his business card from his pocket. 2 solid rings made of card board about the size of a business card.

"I would like to finish my performance with a little miracle with my business card"

"Could you please sign one of these frames, since I am going to leave it with you, I think it should be personalized with your name on it."

The spec signs one of the frames. The magi takes the other frame folds it into a small square and rubs it against the signed frame.

"Solid through solid . . . WATCH" When the magician unfolds the unsigned frame it is discovered to be LINKED with the signed frame.

"I want you to have this . . . Make sure that there are no openings ANYWHERE on these cards."

The specs examine the frames as much as they like but they can find NO openings.

As much as I would love to do the folds and the tears in front of the specs, I think that in a professional situation, the above routine would be faster and still leave the audience with a great trick and an IMPOSSIBLE SOUVENIR!! It will also allow the magician to prepare the linked cards in advance hence insuring the quality of the giveaway.

Based on this method, I recommend that the magician have a special set of business cards made, that have his name and contact info going around the frame (Once you get the secret you'll understand what I mean). This way ALL of your important contact information is not going to be torn away or torn through.

Quinn, I can't thank you enough for coming up with such a great idea. This is a SERIOUS reputation maker.

I anxiously await the release of Conjunction,
Greg Rostami
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Glenn, I'm not sure what the Café rules are regarding me mentioning prices, and I don't want to step on any toes. So for now suffice it to day it will cost more than the average packet trick, less than the average DVD, and WAY less than the average self-levitation.

Sean, many thanks for the kind words. I sent a copy to Sean because I was a fan of his linking cards and his work in general. It's great to get such positive feedback from a guy like him.

Greg, you rapscallion, it seems that some of you slo-mo detectives are too slick to be foiled even by my sped-up video! Darn you and your sister too! But seriously, I'm thrilled that you've already found a way to personalize it. I mention in the manuscript that people have asked me about using the principle in a more "traditional" linking card routine (where the rings start out separate and then link together), and that if someone is inclined to work out a practical way to do it, they should go for it. I am not that someone, as I find the effect more interesting as it is. But if you've made it work for you, then go on with yer bad self.

By all accounts I should receive the manuscripts this coming Wednesday. However, I've seen so many pre-order debacles go down here that I'm not going to start taking orders until I actually have the booklets in my hands and ready to ship. But barring any unforseen eleventh-hour disasters ("What do you mean you didn't want them printed on dark blue paper with black ink?"), that should be very soon.
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UPDATE: Since this thread started I've been getting quite a few PMs and emails asking similar questions. So to help clarify some of these matters for everyone at once, I present...


THE CONJUNCTION FAQ


Can I do it with my current business card?
The answer to that question -- and I wish I had a better one -- is "maybe." And since I'm well aware of how frustrating that answer is, here is the most detailed elaboration I can give you without giving too much away. Once you learn how the link is done, you'll be able to do it with any card. However, in order to prevent people from being able to tell how you did it, the card you use will have to meet certain requirements, the details of which I can't disclose. If your current card meets those requirements, then you'll be able to make a deceptive set of linked rings from it; if it doesn't, you won't. Note, however, that even if you can, that doesn't guarantee that you'll be able to finish with your contact info still intact on the linked rings. In order to make that happen, there's a very good chance you will need new cards. However, the manuscript outlines a number of alternatives for people who don't want to change their current business card.

Can I do it with a borrowed business card?
Again, it depends on the card; some of them will work, some won't.

Can I do it with a playing card?
Finally, a question with a definite answer! And that answer is, no.

How long does it take in real time?
Once you get good at it, about two minutes. And yes, that is a long time for people to watch you fold and tear paper. I discuss various approaches to covering this in the manuscript.

What's the difficulty level?
It will require a good deal of practice, but not the same kind of practice required for difficult sleight of hand; it's more akin to learning to make an origami bird, or make a Jacob's Ladder out of a loop of string. If you've ever mastered something like that, you'll have no problem with this.

Can I do it with a larger piece of paper in a stage setting?
It's theoretically possible, but wholly impractical.

How impromptu is it?
You have to have a suitable business card, but that really is all that's required. If that fits your personal definition of impromptu, then it's impromptu; if it doesn't, then it's not.

What comes with the effect?
A 48-page, 8.5x11", staple-bound, photo illustrated, clearly written, professionally proofread, typographically pleasing manuscript, plus a few blank business cards to practice with.

Why did you release it as a booklet rather than a DVD?
Because I'm an intellectual elitist who spits on the bourgeoisie and their sluggardly desire to have everything spoon-fed directly into what's left of their atrophied brains through a CRT screen. And also because the nature of the effect makes it easier to learn from still pictures (which you can stare at for as long as you need to), than from a DVD (which you would have to keep pausing and rewinding). But mainly it was the first reason.
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The demo looks GREAT!,,,

Does this mean that SOLID really can go through SOLID?

Has this principal never been discovered until now?

Well good luck with this Quinn.

Looks like this is gonna be a big seller in 2007!
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On 2006-12-15 22:59, MagicMan1957 wrote:
Does this mean that SOLID really can go through SOLID?

Has this principal never been discovered until now?


A paraphrase from the manuscript...

Any topologist, origami expert, or high school geometry teacher will tell you that tearing two unbroken, interlinked rings from a single piece of paper is physically impossible, and has been known to be so for centuries. Yet that is exactly what I'll teach you to do, using a process that requires no circumvention of natural laws, but merely a slightly different way of looking at things -- one which has evidently eluded centuries' worth of topologists, origami experts, and high school geometry teachers...
Every problem contains the seeds of its own solution. Unfortunately every problem also contains the seeds of an infinite number of non-solutions, so that first part really isn't super helpful.
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Oh my goodness...I LOVE THIS!!!

Congratulations Joshua. Like Greg, I was able to work out a way to do it after watching your inspiring video. However, I'm eager to read your booklet to learn the real work.

Greg is right about it being adaptable to magic. That's not to say I wouldn't just present it as a paper-tear giveaway. In some situations, it'll probably be a wonderful alternative to origami or the good ol' 260Q's.

On a historical note, with regard to the idea of making paper chains from single pieces of cardboard, it has been done, but not as wonderfully as yours. There's a clever little item called "The Card Chain Puzzle" that was published in George Arnold's 1858 book The Sociable: Or 1001 Home Amusements. He doesn't say who originated the idea, but he explains how to cut a single large piece of cardboard to form a seven-link chain. Every link is solid with no gluing or taping. If you don't already have this book, and if it's okay with you, I'll be happy to forward you a copy of the relevant pages as a 56 kb png file. PM me if you're interested.
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Make me think of "Mobius Strip"

Properties
The Möbius strip has several curious properties.

A Möbius strip can be made by joining the ends of a strip of paper with a half-twist. A line drawn starting from the seam down the middle will meet back at the seam but at the "other side". If continued the line will meet the starting point and will double the length of the original strip of paper. This single contiguous curve demonstrates that the Möbius strip has only one boundary.

If the strip is cut along the above line, instead of getting two separate strips, it becomes one long strip with two half-twists in it (not a Möbius strip). This happens because the original strip only has one edge which is twice as long as the original strip of paper. Cutting creates a second independent edge, half of which was on each side of the knife or scissors. Cutting this new, longer strip down the middle creates two strips wound around each other.

that's what I learned from my caculus class.Smile
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It's not a Möbius strip, but you could probably talk about one as part of your presentation. Most laymen are familiar with Möbius strips, so it'll be doubly impressive when they look at the rings only to find that they don't fit that explanation.
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Funny you should mention the Möbius strip. I've occasionally presented this idea as a challenge to engineers, mathematicians, and the like: "Is it possible to take this business card and tear it into two unbroken, interlinked frames, with no joins, seams, or tears?" Almost without fail, their first move has been to try to twist the card around and turn it into a Möbius strip. I smile as I watch them struggle with this for a moment, then I point out that even if they could do that, they'd have to somehow join the two ends together, which would be a seam, whch is against the rules. That's generally when the smug, "there's no way you're gonna get me" look disappears from their face, and they start dealing with the harsh reality that they might have to buy me that drink after all.

One of my happiest moments with this effect was when I performed it for Dr. Murray Gell-Man, the physicist who won the Nobel Prize for discovering the quark. It wasn't a bar bet with him; I just said I enjoyed his lecture, and I had something interesting that I'd like to give him. When I handed him the rings, he looked at them silently and turned them over in his hands a few times, then finally said, "That's incredible. I don't see how that's possible." That was the moment I knew I had a winner.
Every problem contains the seeds of its own solution. Unfortunately every problem also contains the seeds of an infinite number of non-solutions, so that first part really isn't super helpful.
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