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daffydoug
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Wow! I know very little about marshal arts, but this kick is incredible! Like a LIGHTNING strike! Bruce Lee would surely be proud! Go here: http://www.jokeroo.com/extremevideos/spi......out.html
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Wow.. Is that murder? =x lol

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Yeah...I wonder if he actually and literally KILLED the guy?
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Martial arts amazes me! My son is a black belt and what I've seen from him and his instructors boggles the mind. The control they have over their bodies is truly scarey at times!!

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What a move . . . .
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It was so brutal. I wonder if the kid knocked out got any serious injuries.
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He looked DEAD.
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Not to start a flame war on Martial arts but this video proves why Tae Kwon Do ( which I took for many years ) is a poor defensive martial art . Watch the video again and note the hand positions.
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Say goodnight Gracie.... Bedtime for Bonzo.

I saw a guy get hit in the side of the head with a beer pitcher that hit the floor like that years ago. Saynora....
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On 2006-12-16 15:41, paymerich wrote:
Not to start a flame war on Martial arts but this video proves why Tae Kwon Do ( which I took for many years ) is a poor defensive martial art . Watch the video again and note the hand positions.


I know little about it. I'm ripe for an education. What would be a GOOD defensive martial art?
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My vote goes for Aikido.
Will you walk into my parlour? said the Spider to the Fly,
Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy;
The way into my parlour is up a winding stair,
And I've a many curious things to show when you are there.

Oh no, no, said the little Fly, to ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair
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Since most fights generally degrade into more of a grappling match as opposed to a fist fight, I'd go with Judo (All throwing, pinning and pressure point based martial art). I'm biased as that is my form, but I have always found it to be more effective to tangle a person up so they can't hit or kick than to try to block blows. Working in the venues I do with a group of beautiful girls, it has come in very handy. A fellow smacks a girl on the bum, then finds himself on his stomach accross a table, me whispering in his ear that he had really better rethink what he is doing with his life...
He walks away (When I feel he has apologised enough) unhurt except for his pride.
I've never had a repeat offender.
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I'm not sure I understand the comment on Tae Kwon Do, as my son's school has always stressed keeping the hands in "guard" position (up near the head). The guy in the video was obviously not doing that, and certainly opened up a serious target.

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It's not so much what you learn. But if you can apply it. I can go on a long conversation about this. Most martial arts teach techniques and how to apply a move. But the number one thing I'd say for trained/untrained people experience in actual self defense is the "adrenaline rush" you get.

When you have to do those sets of moves while out of the blue, say at a bar, someone following you/looking to do harmful things to you, surprise attacks, or protecting a loved one. You pretty much "freeze" not being able to do anything unless you're able to deal with the adrenaline stress dump that occurs in your body.
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Control, right?
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Emotional and mental control. They're the tough ones. Especially emotional.
Executing while under stress in a potentially life-threatening situation cannot be taught. It can only be experienced. It reminds me of Darwin's Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection. It's about how well (and how quickly) an organism adapts to its environment.
Will you walk into my parlour? said the Spider to the Fly,
Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy;
The way into my parlour is up a winding stair,
And I've a many curious things to show when you are there.

Oh no, no, said the little Fly, to ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair
-can ne'er come down again.
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Well there's definitely resources on learning how to deal with that adrenal stress taht occurs. If you're around colorado, there's a course. And a few affiliates that you might want to research through their site.

Your body/mind actually learns/picks up things, immensely faster when under stressed conditions. And there's training that actually utilizes this fact.

A few resources in case you interested are.

marc macyoung - taking it to the streets,
peyton quinn's book, real fighting,

and seeing how people might not go the extra step to read a hard copy on the info.

There's this website, http://www.rmcat.com that'll help greatly. And you can also read some of the testimonials also.

And if you happen to be around the Boston area, there's actually complete self defense training that I'm involved with, although I'm still learning myself.


Most people who go to dojos and gyms and have already spent many
thousands of dollars over a period of years and possess various
colored belts do not know how to stand, how to move, how to generate
power without muscling it, how to fight efficiently without exhausting
themselves in literally under 10 seconds, how to strike without
hurting themselves and how to take a blow.

You should look to learn all of the above plus how to become a harder / less likely target, how to prevent a fight, how to get out of it quickly, how to overcome a significantly bigger person if you have no choice, how to protect a 3rd party, what
you can and cannot do legally in your area well as in many
other jurisdictions, etc.

If you are serious about learning self-defense that actually works if
you have to use it, you need to know (as a matter of a public service
announcement regardless of whether you train with me or not) that you
can't learn it in a gym or dojo.

The reasons are many -- and beyond the scope of me postin but they range from how politicized an entity martial arts is to commercialism to legal liability. Dojos, gym classes, etc. can be great for fitness, stress relief, self-discipline, cardio if you're taking something like cardio kickboxing, etc., but we can't afford to confuse issues when there's a lot at stake.

Martial arts are good for sparring with other martial artists, just
like boxing is good for boxing other boxers. Neither can teach you how
to _fight_ in an uncontrolled situation. You cannot learn realistic
self-defense from people who only have sparred half-contact with other
martial artists who take a polite bow and play by the rules.

Drunks and criminals and people who should be trustworthy but aren't do not
play by the rules.
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I really need to beg to differ on this one qwism...My Judo training has come in very handy over the years. It taught me a lot of practical techniques that have proven themselves in the field.
If it wasn't for my training, I would probably be dead of a knife wound right now. Instead, he had his arm broken in two places and went to prison. I have picked up men twice my size drunk beyond the point of pain in real bar fights and thrown them accross the room. I have had men take a swing at me and wind up with their necks constrained in such a way that they couldn't move.
I learned not only how to take a hit, but avoid one, and to come back with a counter with extreme effectiveness. When I am knocked to the ground, I roll out of range and am back up in a single motion.
And I don't have to think about any of it. The training gives you the body memory, the programing to make it all natural.
You also mentioned doing things with only half contact. At least in my discipline, you can't do things at half contact. All was done at full speed in any sparring match, full strength.
So are all martial arts forms effective in real world conditions? No. Tae Bo is useless (Unless you have a good beat to fight to!) It really depends on the discipline practiced and the instructor.
Gwyd, the sometimes bouncer and defender of Dancers
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I grew up in a tough neighborhood, so my folkes decided I needed some sort of self defense classes, I certainly benifitted from it. I was taught by Professor Wally Jay of Island Judo Jui jitsu it was a long time ago... but I still remember lots of things that have served me well. Prof. Jay taught that in a fight on the street everthing goes and he even taught us how to pull hair proficiently. but to echo what Gwyd has said, for me Jui Jitsu for defense is great.
"I came, I saw, SHE conquered." (The original Latin seems to have been garbled.)
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