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bobn3
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Chessman, thanks for clarifying that. I enjoy performing card routines, but have always been a proponent of just going to Sams or WalMart and picking up several decks of of the usual run-of-the-mill old Bikes...that's just me I guess.

Have a great holiday all,

Bob Phillips
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Yes, for some reason, I like the thicker cards. I also like the Bee cards that have the white border and the actual bees on the cards. To each their own!

Happy Holidays to you, Bob.
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The E deck of cards I got have not clicked to this day, which has been over 3 months. I got the Red Masters just to compare a regular bike pack to, and I have to say that there really is no difference whatsoever. Regular bikes are the way to go since you get practically the same thing, from what Ive experienced.
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On 2006-12-30 22:49, Bill Palmer wrote:
The "best" deck is relative. The Master's deck looks good, but I strongly dislike the Ace of Spades. Richard Turner's new deck beats all of them. They are cut from the correct side of the sheet. They are the proper thickness.

But all of this, other than Richard's cards, is old news.


Richard was recently in Portland OR and gave an awesome cards demonstration. During the lecture, he discussed what makes a good card and what makes a bad card.

Suffice it to say that, according to Richard (and as reinforced by Bill Palmer, above), the current crop of non-casino cards are all cut the wrong way to save money.

Accoring to Richard, each card has a smoother rounded edge and a sharper crips edge. This is the natural result of the cutting (stamping out) process. The non-casino cards have the sharp crisp edge exactly upside down and the opposite of the way casino cards are made. And, as a result, non-casino cards are very difficult to faro shuffle when shuffled face down.

Richard is a consultant for USPC and he is working with them to produce a number of decks that are correctly manufacutred (I.e., cut with the correct orientation and of the higher quality "casino card" card stock). Richard will be selling these on his site. I forget the number of decks he is having made but I think it was something like 25,000. (I actually think I heard 45,000-but I might be having another Senior Moment-so, I hedged myu betrs and said 25,000.)

Regardless of the number of decks, it will be a huge number of decks and, as I understand it, they will be printed in Bicycles and Bees (and, quite possibly also printed in Bees with white borders). Anyway, they will be casino quality both in cutting orintation andin card stock quality.

Hope this helps and that my recollections were accurate. (Its he** getting older.)

Mike

P.S. I just got to thinking that Steve Youell put out a short video a number of years back on how he prepares new decks of cards so that they faro properly and like butter". Steve's experiences with new decks seems to reinforce what Richard Tucker was talking about at the lecture.

P.P.S. One fact that I did remember was Richard's comment that USPC card making machines make 6 decks per second!!. WOW!!
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Interesting! Did Richard mention when these new decks will be available for purchase?
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As has been said earlier, "best" is relative. For most close-up work, I use Bikes, except for using Bees for 3 card monte. There is one exception. Living in Kansas, most of my professional work seems to be performing platform magic (just the nature of the beast, I guess). When doing this, I always do card in the orange. Bikes of any type do not last worth a d*mn in oranges (orange juice is an acid, so it just turns them to mush), so this is the one instance that I use Hoyles (the plastic coating keeps them lasting somewhat longer).

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Tried a little experiment re: "clicking" decks.

It does seem that there is one room in my house that does this to cards. I didn't trace the problem till fairly recently, but never really experimented till now to see if it was the room or the deck(s).

It is the room. I got some bikes and a Tally Ho deck and left them in our "computer room" overnight. Sure enough, they all became clicker decks to various degrees. This also has happened the the Masters Decks I recently purchased from Ellusionist.

I have also notied that if the top card of a deck (out of its box) begins to bend after an hour (or less, in the case of my work), the deck will become a clicker, eventually. Other areas of my home are fine.

YMMV. Hope this helps someone down the road.
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On 2007-03-25 00:43, Daniel White wrote:
By far the new split spades

The new Split Spades are the bets cards currently on the market.
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I've just buy ultra thin Nielsen Manipulation card,
and it's great......
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Bikes give you the most flexability for gaffed cards.
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I say just go with the usual Bikes and you'll be sweet. Smile.

Stefan
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On 2007-02-10 14:15, Jessiah wrote:
My favorite deck right now is the M.Stutzman Split Spades. EXCELLENT quality, cut, design, everything about it. TRY THEM!


I'll go with this guy on this.
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Just to chime in here about warped cards. Just something I found out is that heat will cause the cards to have a click in them. Its rather frustrating and hampers most card manipulation. I realized I was watching my magic dvds on my laptop and would rest my cards on it. BAD HABIT. Laptops are hot and ergo the problem. Not saying its def. the reason for people's problem, but my cards are in much better shape now that I had this realization.

Right not I am in love with Theory11's Guardian decks. Unbelievably beautiful and when you see how detailed and modern the Angel's are on the back, you won't look at old Bikes the same way.
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