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mark334 New user 6 Posts |
Hey, I'm using poker sized cards but I find these hard to handle. Can you get smaller sized cards because I feel this would make it easier for me?
Posted: Dec 30, 2006 2:46pm One more thing, if so where is the best place online to buy them? |
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Father Photius Grammar Host El Paso, TX (Formerly Amarillo) 17161 Posts |
Bridge size should do the job, most magic dealers supply them as well as the various playing card companies. Major brands and backs like bicycle also come in bridge size.
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BrianMillerMagic Inner circle CT 2050 Posts |
Sure you can use bridge size, but are you doing it because you think your hands are too small to handle the cards? If you are then stop, take a break, and head back to the poker sized. So many people think their hands are "too small" to handle cards, but in fact you just have to train your hands to move in new ways that you aren't used to. Practice now with poker sized and you'll be glad in the long run.
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DStachowiak Inner circle Baltimore, MD 2158 Posts |
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On 2006-12-30 16:33, BrianMillerMagic wrote: Brian's dead on target with that answer, in fact long ago when Jack Daniels came out with their "Gentleman's Poker Cards" they were actually oversize, to mimic the cards used in the 19th century (This is no longer true, at least for the ones sold in retail stores, the ones I have seen over the last few years are standard poker size) I was told that, if poker size cards were difficult for me, I should practice with the oversize cards, and then the poker size would be much easier. It was true! I don't know if They still have the oversize ones available, you'd have to contact the Jack Daniels folks in Lynchburg, TN to find out.
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Chatterbox41 Veteran user Atlanta, Georgia 349 Posts |
I have known magicians who used the bridge size cards, most moved on to the poker size. Some said they couldn't find the matching gimmicked cards in bridge size.
I have very small hands, but have always used poker sized cards. I started young and palm cards, do a pass, etc. Took awhile to get the feel, but have always been glad I took the time. Also have read somewhere that Malini had small hands, but used the larger sized cards. Just my opinion. |
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ilusionista New user 23 Posts |
I agree with Brian. All of the advice I have heard is to practice, practice, practice with the regular sized cards. Otherwise you will regret it later and have to relearn your tricks.
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evolve629 Inner circle A stack of 3838 Posts |
Train your hands early with the poker size cards. Your hands will adjust and adapt. Jumping from bridge size cards to poker size cards is not recommended. Think of a piano players, it's the player's skills and years of practice!
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Father Photius Grammar Host El Paso, TX (Formerly Amarillo) 17161 Posts |
Actually I teach younger teenagers and girls with bridge size cards, been doing it for years, after they get the basic moves down, then we move them to poker size cards and as a general rule they find it an easy transition. The problem is the frustration when they cannot get the moves in the first place because of their discomfort handling the larger cards. Even those with moderately small adult hands can handle the poker size cards with enough practice. Those who are still young, and especially the younger girls, find even the bridge cards a challenge, but not as frustrating as poker cards.
"Now here's the man with the 25 cent hands, that two bit magician..."
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marty.sasaki Inner circle 1117 Posts |
Once you have things down with poker sized cards you should do a little bit of practicing with bridge sized cards. This will allow you to do things with whatever cards are available.
It's interesting to note that most poker parlors actually use bridge size cards.
Marty Sasaki
Arlington, Massachusetts, USA Standard disclaimer: I'm just a hobbyist who enjoys occasionally mystifying friends and family, so my opinions should be viewed with this in mind. |
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DStachowiak Inner circle Baltimore, MD 2158 Posts |
Marty, that may be a regional preference, the regular poker games I have been to around here (these tend to be home games or private clubs here, and are kept quiet) tend to use poker size cards. The only exceptions I know of that use bridge size are a couple of home games whose hosts prefer plastic cards, and for some reason these seem to be more readily available in bridge size. As I say, this might just be a regional difference, for all I know you may be right about the rest of the country.
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marty.sasaki Inner circle 1117 Posts |
I believe it is true of many casinos, notably in Las Vegas and Atlantic City, and the casino at Foxwoods. Not surprising that home games use poker size for playing poker. I've got a couple of decks of platic cards for playing poker and the retailer confirmed that the casinos use bridge cards. He could have sold me either size since he had both in stock.
It probably makes sense to practice a little with the plastic cards as well. I'm in the Boston, MA area and the home games that I've been a part of have used both sizes.
Marty Sasaki
Arlington, Massachusetts, USA Standard disclaimer: I'm just a hobbyist who enjoys occasionally mystifying friends and family, so my opinions should be viewed with this in mind. |
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Manny New user 57 Posts |
Don't sweat it, train your hands using the poker size cards. Your hands will adjust and adapt much easier when you jump from poker size cards to bridge size cards than the other way around.
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
I started with a poker size deck, moved to a bridge sized one and after mastering the basics, I returned to the poker size deck. Looking back, it was probably just a matter of confidence.
Cards never lie
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Bridge size has been my favorite for over four decades. However, I really don't find enough difference to really matter. I use more poker size because they are cheap!
Should I apologize for the honesty? Frankly, I've never seen a pro make a very good case for either size or that really seemed to care. Except for hobbyists at magic club meetings it seldom gets discussed. It's your show. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
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Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
Personally I prefer Poker size cards, but it's just a personal preference. What it all comes down to is this: If you only use bridge size cards and are given a Poker deck it is really difficult to go 'up' in size. If you use Poker using Bridge is a breeze.
That said, from a magic perspective the only difference between Poker and Bridge is an 1/2" in width. That's it. A trick done with a Bridge size deck is the same in EVERY FREAKING way as done with a Poker size deck. No difference. Like Bridge? Use 'em. Just make sure that you always have cards with you. That's all. I really think there is value in using Poker size. Most of the gaffs are now Poker, etc. But, if you don't use them, then who cares? Bridge cards work for you? Go for it. It's better that then not doing the work at all. And, frankly, for us guys WITH smaller hands palming bridge cards is just a wonderful thing. Best,
Brad Burt
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
To be fair, I did meet a guy with very slender hands who had problems palming a poker sized card.
Cards never lie
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DomKabala Inner circle I've grown old after diggin' holes for 2827 Posts |
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On 2007-01-13 22:13, Brad Burt wrote: The Poker card is 2 1/2" wide and 3 1/2" long. The Bridge card is 2 1/4" wide and 3 1/2" long. The width is 1/4" difference. Cardamagically, <<<KRaZy4KaRdZ>>>
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todsky Inner circle www.magicstore.ca 2354 Posts |
If you like card gaffs, learn to use poker size. Also, if someone hands you a poker size deck and says 'Do a trick' and you can't handle the larger cards, then you're in trouble. Aside from these two considerations, bridge size are just as good and possibly better for certain applications, such as palming.
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Kayo_City New user Dublin, Ireland 59 Posts |
When I started to dabble in sleight of hand, all I used was bridge size cards as in Ireland it was rare to see poker size cards. If fact the first time I handled a poker size deck I scattered the cards half way across the floor. But now poker size are more common than bridge in Ireland so I use them.
I also have small hands and have no problem with palming poker size. In my opinion it doesn't matter about the size of your hands, palming is as much about misdirection as it is about sleight of hand.
That's all i have to say about that!
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Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
RATS! I meant 1/4" and not 1/2", thanks for the clarification. Best,
Brad Burt
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