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The Amazing Noobini
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Christopher, I love that R Paul Wilson DL! Thank you for the link! The natural way I described for someone to turn over a single card is virtually the same, except that the (single) card is thumbed off at the exact center and that it goes out directly sideways as opposed to doing so with a pivoting motion. However... this new one is more than good enough!

One worry though... Does Wilson actually use this when performing himself? I have no idea since I don't have any of his tapes or DVDs. If it is better than anything else then I suppose it would be the one to always use. Unless it offers uneven results. I'm not in any way indicating any sceptisism towards highly talented Mr. Wilson, but the general rule seems to be that video cameras offer endless takes, whereas what people use in a close up performance is often something safer and less flamboyant.

Hope this DL is worth the time and that it doesn't involve roughening sprays or similar, because I have already tried and discarded doing something which looks exactly like this, only with very uneven results. Guess I have to keep pushing and lifting for a while longer.

Oh, and about my name, it is a joke name but by now I think I have realized that the joke isn't clear enough.
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One very important thing that is frequently overlooked in talking about the technical details of the DL is the 'mental attitude' that can make all the difference in the ease with which you aquire the skill. Basically, you have to STOP thinking in terms of more than one card. Attempt to do the move 'thinking' that you are only turning ONE card. Think ONE CARD, ONE CARD and keep that focus. With practice small changes and adaptations will take place that allow the move to become more and more natural and the 'tells' will drop away.

This is one use of what I call the Magic State of Mind. That is, the mental attitude towards a move that stays focused on what is 'supposed' to be happening, what is 'supposed' to be perceived by the audience and not what is actually happening.

When one does the DL the focus should be on the singularity of the move and not the actuality of what is happening sub rosa. Best,
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On 2007-01-11 09:25, The Amazing Noobini wrote:

One worry though... Does Wilson actually use this when performing himself? I have no idea since I don't have any of his tapes or DVDs. If it is better than anything else then I suppose it would be the one to always use.



Paul uses-and teaches-this DL in his lectures, the fact is, he is a seasoned pro and uses whatever sleight is appropriate for the effect he is doing, which means this is one tool in his bag, but trust me on this, it looks just as good in person as it did in this video

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On 2007-01-11 18:47, Brad Burt wrote:
One very important thing that is frequently overlooked in talking about the technical details of the DL is the 'mental attitude' that can make all the difference in the ease with which you aquire the skill. Basically, you have to STOP thinking in terms of more than one card. Attempt to do the move 'thinking' that you are only turning ONE card. Think ONE CARD, ONE CARD and keep that focus. With practice small changes and adaptations will take place that allow the move to become more and more natural and the 'tells' will drop away.

This is one use of what I call the Magic State of Mind. That is, the mental attitude towards a move that stays focused on what is 'supposed' to be happening, what is 'supposed' to be perceived by the audience and not what is actually happening.

When one does the DL the focus should be on the singularity of the move and not the actuality of what is happening sub rosa. Best,

I couldn't agree more.
This is a vital point to remember when performing any sleight or secret move, you should be convinced that you are really doing what you want the spectator to believe you are doing.
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I think what will help, if you are not already doing it, is to beak it up into 2 moves.

Don't just try and grab 2 cards.

Relax and riffle cards while you are talking and making eye contact.

First riffle from the back and get break beneath two cards and hold with pinky for a moment while you are talking and riffle front a few times.

Now that you have a pinky break...use your thumb to slide the card/s over half an inch or so.

You'll find that by having the pinky break the thumb naturally slides 2 cards as one and then you can turn them over in a natural looking manner.

I see many magicians grab the card/s from the (back)corner closest to them and turn over sideways and to me this looks very UN natural.

Natural way to turn over top card is to thumb it over a bit...then grab it naturally from the side or furthest corner and flip it end for end.

If you were going to just flip the top card over...how would you do it?

Try to make your DL appear the same.

Try this a few times and you'll see it is simple and also feels and LOOKS natural.
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Of the 4 types of DL which do you do best?
Practice only that DL, you don't need 4 types.
Also with some DL you must use a get ready
and time delay to make it work properly.
Asking a question and making eye contact
when executing the DL will help misdirect
and hide any mess up under pressure.
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That is a good point about choosing one. However I still think different tricks may sometimes require a different DL, so maybe a different take on that advice would be practice two, or practice a few but only one to absurd perfection.

I have trouble with methodes that require a get ready myself, mostly because I haven't practiced that get ready enough. After all there are good DLs that do not require one. And still... at times a break is needed.

And regarding convincing yourself that you are really doing what the spectator should see... I think it is interesting but I don't quite buy it. A bit too Zen for me. It sounds good, but I fear that it will eventually hinder you in reaching an even higher level of skill.

How should I explain that... in method acting for instance, there is a misconception that the actor should believe that he is having a heart attack or whatever. But that is not the proper method. Which is to believe fully that this is how someone having a hear attack would behave. And then controlling that. That way, with practice, you are still able to perform it exactly like it happens to you, but you are always in control. Not falling for your own illusions. If you fall for them your brain might not try to come up with an even better way of doing it. And creativity must never die.
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"You, my friend, have a lot to learn." (S. Youell)
"Nonsensical Raving of a lunatic mind..." (Larry)
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I feel most confident with Dr. Jacob Daley's Instantaneous Double Lift as taught in Stars of Magic. I think I have a video of it on my YouTube page.
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