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Well there are always stories about who invented something and who patented it first. The same goes for who invented the screw propeller, he couldn't get a US patent for some reason. Then somebody in the states "invented" it.
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On 2007-01-06 05:56, Joey Stalin wrote:
Well there are always stories about who invented something and who patented it first. The same goes for who invented the screw propeller, he couldn't get a US patent for some reason. Then somebody in the states "invented" it.

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Joey,

Is that true?

... or did you invent that????

--if so, where do you hail from?

(lol)

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On 2007-01-06 00:48, Bill Palmer wrote:
Actually, if you want to pick nits, Alexander Graham Bell was a Scot. He was born and educated in Edinburgh. He moved to Ontario, but left Ontario and moved to the US. He invented the telephone in the US.

Not exactly.

It was while Bell lived in Brantford, Ontario, Canada, that he first imagined / invented the idea of a telephone. He did much of the later technical work in America, and his first call was made in America, but the idea for the telephone came to him while he was still living in Canada.

So, and not to sound like a lawyer, but where he "invented" the phone is open to debate, depending on what you mean by "invented". The idea was first invented / imagined by Bell in Canada; the working device was invented / built in America.

http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/top_ten/nomin......ham.html

"It was in Brantford that Bell's greatest idea was born. While relaxing atop the bluff he referred to as "his dreaming place," Bell allowed himself to brainstorm about a "harmonic telegraph" device he was working on. Alexander figured that if he could make an electric current undulate the same way air does when sound is produced, he could definitely transmit speech telegraphically. This daydream became the basis for the invention of the telephone.

Feeling inspired, Bell returned to Boston and began work on his invention. Always clumsy with his hands, Bell needed an assistant to actualize his idea and he found the perfect match in Thomas Watson, a gifted young electrician and model maker. The two laboured on the project for almost a year until a happy accident occurred on June 2, 1875. While Watson worked to loosen a reed that was wound around an electromagnet, Bell heard a noticeable twang, and realized this effect could be recreated with the human voice."
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Every country wants to claim part of the glory in any fame. I live in Ontario Canada and as a huge fan of Walt Disneys.. I have to listen to people claim that Walt was born only a few hrs from here. Its a common myth an is never OFFICIALLY denied by local tourism even though its know not to be true.

I never knew Bell wasn't Canadian so I learned something today. I live only hr from were he lived when he was in Canada and always thought it was his birthplace. Brantford ON, is also known as " Bell City".

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On 2007-01-06 12:41, Timothy Drake wrote:
I live in Ontario Canada and as a huge fan of Walt Disneys.. I have to listen to people claim that Walt was born only a few hrs from here. Its a common myth an is never OFFICIALLY denied by local tourism even though its know not to be true.

I'm from Ontario myself (born in Toronto and lived there more than half of my life) and I never heard this about Walt Disney. Where do people claim he was born, according to the myth you refer to?

I just did a google search on the subject ... it appears Walt Disney was born in Chicago, but his FATHER was born in Canada:

http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/ar......le=11289

Also, some further details are available here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_Disney

"Elias Disney (February 6, 1859–September 13, 1941) was the father of Walt Disney.

Elias was born in the rural village of Bluevale, Ontario, Canada, to Kepple Disney and Mary Richardson."
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People claim Walt Disney was born in Goderich. ( not true of course ) Here is a small example of how that myth carries on..

http://www.disneylies.com/feedback/mailbag2005.shtml Read down a bit and you'll find a person disputing the fact he was born in Chicago and insisting it was Goderich...LOL

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Interesting. So if a person was born in, lived in, or was related to a person born in or lived in, Canada it is a Canadian invention? Kind of a sad list but I understand something has to replace the lost claim that Canadians shot down the Red Baron.
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If you want to nit pick like that The Bomb isn't an American invention... heh
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Magic Santa,

Since you are posting in an anonymous form I have no way to determine why you'd post such a post to try to inflame some sort of " my country is better than your country" debate unless its a slow night for you and you have not much else to do. Pride in ones country is a good thing as long as it doesn't turn into a slur against anothers.

I think the truth about most milestones in human history is that they are a collective effort. WW II was won by the allies and not one country, American Hockey Teams have as many Canadians on them as the Canadian Teams do. I think both American and Canadian Baseball teams have the same large portion of Cubans on them..... and the US got to the Moon first because... " Their Germans were smarter than the Russians Germans" LOL

BTW... I always thought it was an anti-aircraft bullet fired from the ground that killed the Red Baron and I think I learned that in a Canadian documentary...LOL

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Tim
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Drake, I agree with you, but only partially. I think invention is the result of both collaberation and competition (even conflict). Some of the greatest inventions were originally wartime creations. Both the atom bomb and the electronic computer were direct results of WWII. The only other endeaver that has spurred as much or more inventiveness has been the space race, which occured during...you guessed it...the cold war.
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Didn't a Canadian also invent the moose???

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On 2007-01-07 03:08, clynim wrote:
Drake, I agree with you, but only partially. I think invention is the result of both collaberation and competition (even conflict). Some of the greatest inventions were originally wartime creations. Both the atom bomb and the electronic computer were direct results of WWII. The only other endeaver that has spurred as much or more inventiveness has been the space race, which occured during...you guessed it...the cold war.



Hi Clynim,

Very true.

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Sorry if I hurt your feelings Timothy, please feel free to pm me with any questions about me. The list provided as 'invention' consist of a number, a large number in fact, of inovations rather than inventions. If you want to trace the history of the lightbulb, for example, it is the British who contributed the most to the development, Edisons lab finally resolving the issue. Then there is the phone. Bell was Scottish who developed the phone in the US but it seems that the 'thought' occured while in Canada thus making it a 'Canadian invention'. Does this mean that should research show that the others mentioned thought of their idea or did work on their idea (I won't use the word invention) whilst in the UK, France, or US etc then that development would then transfer from being Canadian to an origin in that country? I also see where it is reference that a developer was having his idea contributed to Canada because his father was Canadian. I wasn't aware Canadian was now an ancestorial reference for hyphination use, for example Irish-American, Italian-American, now is there a Canadian-American or shall it become a third component? My reference to the list being sad is that there were some trivalities mixed in with some major accomplishments. In closing I now declare Dai Vernon to be an American Magician as far as any creation he had after moving to the US because that is where the thought for the effect was originated. I do want to salute the creator of the wonder bra, well done.
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Hi Magic Santa,

Many thanks for your reply. You didn't hurt my feelings. I simply saw the post as an attempt to get another of those who's country is better posts started and wanted to de-rail another of those long ranting threads before it happened. LOL

I absolutley agree with your view that everyone wants a piece of the pie when glory is to be found when in fact its always a collective effort. This is ALWAYS the case. I bet any country Bell spent time in has some sort of claim on his genius. Personally I always wonder why anything has to be classified by race or nationality.

Who cares what nationality Dai Vernon was??.. I'm just glad he was " a magician"..LOL

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Tim
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I wasn't waving any flags...address those that were. I've not ever stopped to consider the origin of inventors, doesn't made their contribution any better or worse based on where they come from.
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Canadians invented Canada... didn't they... or were they French Candians??? Now I'm all confused.


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On 2007-01-07 17:46, MagicSanta wrote:
I wasn't waving any flags...address those that were. I've not ever stopped to consider the origin of inventors, doesn't made their contribution any better or worse based on where they come from.

You seem to be getting excited over a list created for the sake of a tv show. If you have a problem with it, or the list's accuracy, get in touch with the CBC. See the link I posted earlier.
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On 2007-01-07 17:58, jlevey wrote:
Canadians invented Canada... didn't they... or were they French Candians??? Now I'm all confused.
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Hi Jonathan,

Canadians "discovered" Canada just like Columbus "discovered" America. This was of course a suprise to the indians who had been there all the time. LOL

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Tim
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I'm not excited at all, I'm very impressed with the contribution to screw technology our bretheren to the North came up with. There is one person on the list I've known for a number of years and he is an outstanding fellow with a world class company... Columbus never stepped foot on North American soil.
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