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Perhaps it's the size of your hands. Maybe this isn't for you. Years ago I knew a guy who was able to do a convincing classic force with a jumbo deck, no matter how hard I tried I couldn't hold the break and spread the cards due to the size of my hands.
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Thanks for your post, ladirector. I am looking to force three cards for use with an old Albenice Rising Card Houlette (like the Hathaway method). I have something now that will work, but I'm never opposed to looking further!
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Daniel: Plan B - Try it with half a deck of cards. If it works, you can always have the spectator cut the deck about in half. Have him (or her) point to one of the halves. Use magician's choice to pick up the bottom half and do the Hindu shuffle with that. If it still is too much for your hands, on to....

Plan C: Try some half-size jumbos. I have found decks in the Dollar Store that are smaller than standard jumbos... about a half size smaller. If you can't find them, on to....

Plan D: Use a regular sized deck with jumbo indexes.
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The cut deeper force is very easy and effective, as is Gary Ouellet's Touch Force, from Close Up Illusions.

Under the spread force with bottom card is also very easy and would work well for the force of multiple cards.

The clock force and the "nine" force are very easy, too (no "handling" at all), though somewhat contrived and time consuming.

A Tenkai Turnover could easily be used as a force.

With a bit of practice, a slip force is quite do-able.

I have used the classic force many times with a jumbo deck.

Here's another very easy and effective force: Force card is at face of deck Draw off the top and bottom cards together (it's OK if a few more cards come along for the ride) and replace at bottom. Repeat until spectator says stop, and then show the face card.

Another good one for multipe force cards: Put them at the face of the deck. Bevel the side of the deck widely, top card furthest to right. Underneath the deck, slide the face card to the right such that it is almost even with uppermost card. Riffle down side of deck til spec says stop. Pull out cards below break, slipped card coalescing at face of right-hand packet, show as selection and replace this packet on top of left packet. Repeat with other force cards.

Etc, etc, etc...
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A short card can be used as a key above the to be forced card(s) for a two handed riffle force.
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The good old cross cut force does it for me, followed by a bit of my trademark witty reparte. They don't notice a thing, except the pull dangling from my sleeve.
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I use the above. Both of them requires some management.
Most practical: CROSS CUT
'Better' (requires some management): Any Timming Force (ribbon spread or fan)

The timming force gets better with cards face down (since they are jumbo cards it is easy to spot the smallest pencil dot in the forced card).
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As long as this thread is still going strong, I should mention that a nice range force is included with Jim Gerrish's "Brainpower" effect in The Wizards' Journal #12. It looks so natural and innocent that few would even suspect that the card has been forced. A range force, for those who have not read "Forcing" from The Wizards' Journal #8, where further examples are given, is a force of more than one choice at a time... a range of choices. The "Brainpower" force can easily be performed with a jumbo deck.
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Force Deck, or rough cards with every other card as force if you want to cleanly show the faces.
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A cut deeper force is very effective and deceptive, for the jumbo ungimmicked deck.
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I just released my version of U.F. Grant's Space Thought... an oddly named method of forcing a single card from a jumbo (or ultra jumbo) deck or pack of cards. A photo can be seen on my site in The Wizards' Journal #18, but neither the photo nor the name tells you precisely how clever a force this is for either a single card or for a range of cards. The spectator seems to have a completely free choice (or choices). The chosen card is isolated in a see-though houlette that is little more than a frame. The prediction has been made well in advance and written on a whiteboard (or slate if you prefer). It doesn't SEEM to be a force and yet...
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I would use a cross cut force. This force also has the advantage that you don't have to touch the cards when you do it.
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I'd go with the Cut Deeper force. Seems very random and fair.
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Riffle force
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Steez, exactly what is your handling and exactly how large of hands do you need to do a traditional riffle force with a jumbo deck?
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On 2009-01-20 22:47, Spellbinder wrote:
One way to bring the jumbo deck down to size is to start with the three force cards on the top of the deck, give it a false shuffle and/or cut and hand the deck to a spectator. Ask the spectator to think of a number between ten and twenty and to deal off that number of cards face-down into your hand. Now you have a smaller pack of cards to work with the the spectator has conveniently placed the three force cards on the bottom of the pack for you. There's more than one way to skin a Hofzinser.

I'd then tell the spectator to deal the cards into three piles. The force cards are then right where you want them.
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So I saw some prfessionals suggested Jumbo Pop-Eyed Popper Deck, can I choose the forced card or it is fixed by manufacturer? since I am going to order one:)

thanks

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On 2009-08-09 02:08, DustinF wrote:
I would use a cross cut force. This force also has the advantage that you don't have to touch the cards when you do it.


I agree with above-as a Professional performer in over 100 theatre shows a year
I can vouch for the simplicity of this method,gimickless..-albeit a bit of timed misdirection while talking!!

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I guess it all boils down to presentation. Audiences themselves know for a fact know that jumbo cards are hard to handle.. Keep it simple.. Under the spread force is pretty decent if you ask me.. =)
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I am working on the Creature Shock illusion, and have a jumbo deck of cards with animal names. I will need to end up forcing TWO or maybe THREE of the cards at different times.

So far the best thing I have come up with is a glide force each time... or should I try a different force each time. The fact that I have to do this three times seems to rule out classic force, cross cut, hindo, cut deeper, etc.

Any ideas?
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