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I was wondering if any of you have a gospel patter for this effect. And another question, is it okay for a Christian magician to perform mind reading effects such as this?
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I don't have a patter for that particular efect, and in general stay away from "mindreading" effects presented as mindreading.

However I don't think that you have to present such effects as "Mindreading". That is the issue that troubles me with them. How can you tell folks that you aren't really doing magic, (which the Bible does forbid) and then tell them you will read their mind?

I am currently working on a Christian message for Deep Astonishment a Paul Harris effect where you end up producing cards each with a letter on it, that together spell a 4, 5, or 6 letter word given earlier by the spectator, and the cards are produced from a wallet that has been on the table, in plain view for the whole presentation.

For this effect, I am working on the premise of a demonstration that sort of shows how prayer works. (It is still in the early stages, and there is a lot of card handling that goes on early in this effect that supports a story) I don't intend to ever make it appear that I have read minds or even attempted to do so. But through my "demonstration" which is a trick, based on illusion, I hope to show how I think prayer works.

I don't think it is really very much about the effect, as much as it is about the presentation you apply to the effect.

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Perhaps this is a tangent, because it's not about JK's MindPower deck, but it's about
'mindreading' as a gospel effect.

I occasionally will do a 'mindreading' effect for the congregation, then tell them that mindreading isn't possible, and although that was an amazing demonstration, there was a trick to it. Wouldn't it be nice if we really could read minds, though? Wouldn't it be great if we really could read the mind of God? Well, we can! Not through a crystal ball or someone's palm, but through the Word that He gave us, the Bible.

In that Book, we find the mind of God opened up to us and revealed. Let's look at what it says about... (insert whatever it is you want to talk about here)

I find that this does 3 things:
It gets their attention right from the start it debunks the idea of actual mindreading/psychic powers, and
it introduces your scripture or your topic and what God thinks about it.

Sorry if that's a tangent, maybe there's a better place to post this, but that's my two cents.
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Hi everyone,

I lurk around this forum a bit, but it's the first time I've posted to it. I spend most time in the Mentalism section, hence my interest in this particular question.

As a Christian, one thing I find disturbing in many believers is the lack of priority given to discernment when faced with anything that looks supernatural. Many people will either put it down to a work of the Holy Spirit (without thinking about it) or condemn it as evil (without thinking about it).

If you present a mindreading or "psychic" effect which people simply cannot fathom, but they are aware of your Christian beliefs and know that you are a magician, it can be a great pointer towards using their God-given brain to analyse whether everything "supernatural" really is as it appears on the surface or not, rather than making knee-jerk assumptions about everything they see but don't understand. How many people would have been helped to avoid the clutches of false evangelists and cults if this kind of thinking was encouraged?

One caveat: This approach is NOT suited to platform entertainment or shows intended directly as "gospel illustration". It should probably only be kept for people who you know would benefit from it, AND have time and space to discuss it with you personally (or they may just label you as using evil powers whatever you say to the contrary in performance).

It ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it - Bananarama.
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