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MagiClyde
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Mandrake01, I have seen articles on this, regarding Simba and Kimba. Personally, I think most of them refer to both the names and their looks, as Simba, in his youth, looks a lot like Kimba. While Disney denies this connection, the artists knew better. As for their lives, no. That was not copied exactly.
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http://www.snopes.com has some very interesting stuff on it. Lots of different urban legends and myths in movies, and things we use everyday.
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On 2007-01-27 22:09, clynim wrote:
Mandrake01, I have seen articles on this, regarding Simba and Kimba. Personally, I think most of them refer to both the names and their looks, as Simba, in his youth, looks a lot like Kimba. While Disney denies this connection, the artists knew better. As for their lives, no. That was not copied exactly.


I didn't hear anyone talking about the way they look as kittens. Most of the posts I saw were; "Disney ripped off "Kimba" to make "The Lion King." " which was clearly not true.
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On 2007-01-26 18:40, Justin R wrote:
Has anybody here tried syncing up "Dark Side of the Moon" with the Wizard of Oz? I haven't but I'd like to hear from somebody who actually cared enough to try it out.


Done it. It's pretty interesting and only takes a little over a half hour. Start the CD after the Lion Roar.
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It is pretty obvious that The Lion King was a direct rip-off of Osuma Tesuka's Jungle Emperor (Jungle Taitei) the serialised comic from 1950 to 1954, it became Japan's first colour animated television series in 1965. Fifty-two episodes were released in 1966 in English under the title Kimba The White Lion. Do a google image search if you have any doubts. It wasn't just several story lines that they lifted, but a shameful amount of the art works as well.
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Wow . . this is fantastic.
Thanks guys. Guess I need to dust off my DVD player . . . .

BTW, the lion king is "inspired" by Jungle Taitei. Just google it for more information . . . .

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No, actually, Disney calims they never heard of Osuma Tesuka before making the Lion King. Scumbag company.
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I remember seeing a very bitter interview with the widow of Osuma Tesuka. Will post the link, if I can still retrieve it from somewhere. . .
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Always seemed to me that The Lion King was a "rip off" of Hamlet... Smile

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Well it isn't in the movie but an interesting fact. Will Smith was chosen ahead of Reeves to play Neo in the Matrix.
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On 2007-01-28 23:07, Mercury52 wrote:
Always seemed to me that The Lion King was a "rip off" of Hamlet... Smile

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Actually, that was Disney's claim in defence of ripping off Simba! "No, we ripped off the idea from Shakespeare" If you are really interested, check out the art work side by side, here:

http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm
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On 2007-01-29 06:38, Joey Stalin wrote:
Well it isn't in the movie but an interesting fact. Will Smith was chosen ahead of Reeves to play Neo in the Matrix.


...and he rejected the script because he couldn't follow it. (Turns out he was probably smart.)
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The real story of The Lion King can be found in the book, "Disney: The Mouse Betrayed," by Peter Schweizer. It seems that the Disney studio did rip off much of Kimba the White Lion, all the while saying publicly they didn't. One thing I can't stand is duplicity, and I wish they had just credited Osamu Tezuka for the general idea, and everyone would have been happy.

http://www.amazon.com/Disney-Mouse-Betra......95263874

Additionally, you can click http://www.kimbawlion.com/ and hit the Lion King link.

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Yeah, I've been doing a PM with Bitterman. I acknowledge that there are similarities and it was <mega> stupid for Disney to try and claim that <nobody> at the Disney studio ever heard of "Kimba-The White Lion." If you know animation, you might not know <all> animae, but you're going to know "Kimba."

At the same time, I still believe the two storylines go off in such different directions the matter is moot at best.

I also still say "Aladdin" is closer to the Sabu version of "The Thief of Bagdad" than "The Lion King" is to "Kimba." I mean, they named the bad guy "Jaffar" as opposed to the original film's "Jafar." Aladdin and the Prince from the earlier movie both see the princess from an awning in the marketplace. Aladdin's monkey-pal is named Apu which was Sabu's name in the original and the sultan is shown as a jovial fat man all in white who likes to play with toys! Where's the websites and outrage over this? Smile
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On 2007-01-27 00:53, mandrake01 wrote:
Well, I didn't want to spoil it. But you're right about the mer-people.

Simba and Kimba have this one thing in common, their names rhyme. Simba's father is killed and he goes off and has a great time until he realizes his responsibilities and retakes his throne.

KIMBA'S father is killed and he and his mother are captured by poachers. Kimba escapes when the ship sinks (drowning his mother) makes his way back to his father's pride and (I'm not making this up) tries to bring civilization to the animals!

Watch the color version of "The Thief Of Bagdad" some time and catch all the obvious riffs "Aladdin" lifted. I've never seen anyone pick up on those.

I think you can find "Dark Side of the Rainbow" on YouTube if you dig around.

I never had the patience to sit through it myself.




If you think that's bad with Aladdin, there was another film, I don't remember the name, but it had a Cobbler (shoe guy, I think) and it is incomplete, but Disney ripped it off almost entirely with Aladdin.
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As for things like in the original post with credits, just watched Shade, yet again, and noticed during the credits, when crediting the different Grips (a film position) like Key Grip, etc, they also listed Erdnase Grip and Mechanics Grip, lol.
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What does the police car robot have on it instead of "to protect and serve" in transformers?
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Hidden or not? when you seen a action scene like what I saw in the show "Fall guy".They were pulling off the jail bars with a pickup to help someone escape ,the bumper breakes off the pickup to. Then in the next scene while they were getting away you see the bumber is still on the truck.
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"Simba" means "lion" in Swahili, and has been a traditional name for lions in literature. I thought it was kind of cheesy for Disney to use that name, but not plagiaristic in any way. However, I agree that it's ridiculous for Disney to make the claim that nobody there knew about Kimba - gimme a break.
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On 2007-07-09 13:38, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
What does the police car robot have on it instead of "to protect and serve" in transformers?



"To punish and enslave"
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