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Liyao
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Currently I am using the 6 hrs memorize deck book from Martin ___? forgotten the authors name.... using the shock order...

Does different type of memorize decks have its own different characteristic...?

So what else video or book that I am able to know more about the memorize stack routine or tricks...

Thanks.
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I like the Aronson Stack. Of course that may be because I have it memorized.

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Darwin Ortiz has some effects in his new book. I heard their pretty mind blowing.

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Juan Tamariz has a stack which incorporates some poker deals too.
It is on one of his newest videos.

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Simon Aronson gives away the stack itself, in .pdf format on his website:

http://www.simonaronson.com

Read the whole thing. You'll see that while there may be mnemonic "short-cuts," as it were, to aid and abet the curve, it will really not matter because the effective, instantaneous recall required for many effects will still have to come by rote saturation.

Darwin Ortiz does have an outstanding effect in his new book, Scams & Fantasies With Cards, that would in reality, be a good one for practicing the memorized deck (see "Zen Master"), as there are deliberate pauses and contortions written into the trick--allowing any needed delay for calculation. Do not get me wrong, the spectator will not interpret this to be practice, as the trick is set up that way at the outset.
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I agree with the Aronson Stack, it's the one I learnt and his books keep adding new ideas into the mix. Go click on the link above!

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I think the Joyal Stack is best!
Great web for stacks & memorized decks:

http://www.joyalstack.com/
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Of course it depends on you, but for example the best memorized decks (stacks) here in Spain, or at least the most used were Juan Tamariz´s and Daniel DaOrtiz´s decks.

And in my opinion both are great. Everybody knows Juan. And Daniel is a young cardician, who improve some ideas of Juan´s memorized deck, to get a great new one.

But as always, it depends on you.

All the best magic,

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I think breakthrough card system has good merits
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Liyao, just a question. As you are seeing 6th Hour book, could you give as a review? Or anyone here? Is it really an interesting and really-works method of learning memorized deck?

All the best magic,

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The best stack? Well the one you've memorized, of course!

99% of effects that rely on memorized stacks are stack-independant, meaning that it doesn't matter which stack you use.
So just go out, pick a stack (or just take a regular, shuffled deck) and memorize it!

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Quote:
On 2003-01-09 12:00, Pablo Tejero wrote:
Liyao, just a question. As you are seeing 6th Hour book, could you give as a review? Or anyone here? Is it really an interesting and really-works method of learning memorized deck?

All the best magic,

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I use that stack professionally and it took me less than 6 hours to learn it. And I don't have a particularly good short term memory. Not sure what else there is to say except that it works.
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I'll defer to Darwin Ortiz from his new book, Scams & Fantasies with Cards:

"Magicians often ask me what memorized stack I recommend. My advice is always the same: take a deck, shuffle it, memorize it. If you're not inclined to this advice, you may want to consult p.215 of The Annontated Erdnase for a survey of some of the options."
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The most important factor here is to find a clever method to learn a stack. In Martin Joyals book "Six-Hour Memorized Deck" he teaches a very clever system to memorize a deck with 52 cards. I think the average reader can learn this stack pretty easy. The Joyal stack has also an apparent random order which is important.
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The Aronson stack period.
Larry Davidson
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The best is obviously subjective, and the Aronson stack was not the best for me for two reasons - -

1. It would take longer to learn than the Joyal stack; and,

2. I have no interest in performing the effects that are built into the Aronson stack so the Joyal stack's lack of built-in effects was not a downside to me.

In any event, a memorized deck is nothing more than a tool, and what's important is the particular effects you perform using that tool.
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Pablo, where can I find more information about Daniel's stack?
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The literature is filled with a variety of clever memorized decks, including a number of different techniques to employ in committing them to memory (there are four). Those interested in the different approaches (and their associated trade-offs) might find An Introduction to Full-Deck Stacks to be interesting reading.

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where on aronsons site does it give his deck away?
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Magicians Only > Memorized Deck Magic > Click here for a Free Download of Memories Are Made of This – an Introduction to Memorized Deck Magic. (PDF format, Acrobat 4.0 or higher required)

I should have been clearer. Saqib16, I posted above the path you need to follow.
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