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StreetWalker
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Before I begin I want this forum to be a huge topic of discussion.

Now,

I have noticed many people do not like David Blaine. Why? What makes him so different than you. Do you not own a raven or an invisible deck? Hardly. He is an excellent performer and a wonderful magician. He studies and practices just as we all do here.

I think some are jealous that by doing things we all do, he got a television show. When in fact if you were the one to get the show instead of him you would be full of happiness.

I think we all should accept blaine for being a wondeful addition to the world of magicians and praise him for taking something we all do here and making it known.

Thank you.

StreetWalker

P.S. This is not meant in a rude way or to offend anyone. Thanks
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Uh ohhhh....not again..... Smile
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Greetings and Salutations StreetWalker,

DB has done a wonderful thing for magic, he introduced it, through his TV specials, to a whole new audience, and if that is how or why you got started, then he has done his job well.

Believe it or not, the Masked Magician spurred my interest in magic. I had always loved watching magic, but thought the performing was beyond me until I saw him. So you never know where you're going to find you inspiration.

But DB does not do street magic, he does magic in the streets. What's the difference? With his magic and the way he performs it, he would be lucky to make enough money for his lunch, let alone keeping his TV crew employed.

Street magic, as defined in this particular forum, "The sidewalk shuffle," is the art of gathering a crowd, entertaining them, and then having them reach into their pockets and pull out money to drop into your hat.

DB does strolling or walk-around magic, showing a trick or two to a couple or group, and then moving on.

He does some great magic, but much of it is not practical for a full street show. This is my way of saying more power to DB and his skills and abilities to make the coin of the realm, but without the name and face recognition, i.e., a TV special, few if any of his imitators will get the exposure or money he does.

That's my two cents.

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Streetwalker,

I like David Blaine quite a lot. I own a raven and an invisible deck and I use them in my walk around show.

The reason people are not interested in him in this particular forum is because David Blaine is not a street magician.

He had a special called "Street Magic". In this special he did walk around magic for people who just happened to be on the street. It isn't the same thing. For some reason people not familiar with magic assume that because he did a few tricks on the street he must therefore be a street magician.

A street magician is a person who makes their living by performing magic on the street. It is a completely different type of show and style of magic. David Blaine would tell you the same thing. This particular forum is for people interested in that type of magic. There are many professional street magicians who post here and share ideas and thoughts on this type of magic.

When someone posts a David Blaine story here it makes about as much sense as posting it to the kid’s show section.

I hope that clears it up for you.

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geez!!!!!!

It's not that we don't like him...he doesn't belong here...and I don't own an invisible deck....or a raven...and haven't bought anything from a magic shop in a year....

If I were it would be a book or a video that shows the real stuff...now I don't have a problem with guys walking around doing magic with gimmicks....very strong stuff...but for me I would rather accomplish the same thing just using real stuff...

Please leave Blaine someplace else....talk to the powers here to maybe start a seperate forum for just Blaine....then us street guys won't have to hear about how great a street performer Blaine is....from guys who don't know Blaine is not a street performer...


I love this site and this thread...it's great....

and I thank the people who run this site....

but I wish they would come up with a place for all the new Blaine fans to go..

koz
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What is a raven---besides a bird?

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Hi Ellen,

It’s also an interesting poem by Edgar A. Poe. Smile

The raven is a device that can be used to vanish a small metallic item that is usually held in the spectator’s open hand.

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It's basically a very attractive pull. I can't say any more without exposing a marketed item.

But it's just a fancy $30 pull...
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I think street performers as you call them are table performers. But I'm canadian
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KOZ has a good idea. Maybe they should move all David Blaine threads to;
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Somtimes I think the whole DB discussion revolves around whether you like him, or whether you like his style of performing. I for one was completely intrigued when I first saw his Street Magic special. I thought the one-on-one reactions from the people he performed for were fantanstic, it showed me a new dimension. But as far as his personality - well, I know that if I were a lay person I probably wouldn't feel comfortable with someone acting that spooky (for lack of a better word) in my space. So I was fansinated by the magic, but put off by the character. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Ya know what I think? they should just make another forum called "David Blaine street magic or something. That way all the people who come from that site http://Ellusionist.com which if your not familiar with is marketing guerrilla magic learning tapes under the false name of "Street Magic." They have their own commercial on T.V. and everything. They play the commercial at commercial breaks whenever they have any magic shows on T.V. Namely the David Blaine specials... Ya know what also ticks me off about these guys (I feel a tangent coming on) is that they seem to be creating a new form of magician with their tapes... I checked them out and they have all these tapes and stuff that teach you "ninja" (LOL) sleight of hand and stuff and they have their own names for the sleights.

They even have effects that many magicians use but they are naming them something different and so like any new magician that has no clue and starts with these guys is gonna try to talk to another magician and have no friggin clue what they are talking about. I mean stupid stuff like they call the trick we know as "Out of this World" something like I think it was "Chance Zero" Smile

Anyway, back to topic. I am getting really really really sick of hearing about this David Blaine controversy... can't anyone just accept that everyone has an opinion on everything? Some people are gonna hate Blaine and some are gonna love him and others JUST DON'T CARE!!! I mean it's just like if I was gonna ask the world whether they liked Elton John or not! Who cares man. David Blaine is old news and I'm sick of seeing new posts about opinions on him...
Anyway, as for my opinion I think he has done a great thing for magic. More people that thought magicians were blundering idiots (because of the bad reputation that bad magicians have given)and would never give me the light of day are now totally interested and ask "Hey can you bite a quarter in half?" (as I say yes but let me show you something different you've not seen before and maybe you'll like it better.)
Gosh sorry I'm blabbering on... I think David Blaine is a good performer but as a magician I find him somewhat boring.
Ok I'm done now sorry for the novel.
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He is a guy that does magic tricks, but he is not a magician as we know one to me. He is, of course, a guy that does magic tricks and gets paid millions!! What he is, is a showman, a very good showman.
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When we are making a couple mill a piece on tv specials, then we may critique this man. I have the utmost respect for some one who can exploit these illusions, ala Houdini!
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Dr. Zodiac.

I don't know how this makes a difference as to the fact that he is not a street magician.

To a street performer it makes as much sense as looking at your picture and thinking you are a kid show magician.

I think Blaine is probably insulted to think that people catagorize him as a street magician.

That is not what he is about. He is part Uri Gellar, part walkaround, and part Houdini.

None of these have anything to do with busking.

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I have personally never really heard DB refer to himself as a street magician(Yes I know he has special called street magician) but let's face it, he probably didn't have a complete say in what his special was called. ABC, I'm sure was looking for a good catchy name. The execs at ABC probably have no idea what the difference between what DB did/does and "real" street magic. I have a question. I would love an honest answer too. How many people here don't really do street magic, but would perform magic on a special called "street magic" if offered 1.8 million dollars, plus a promise of two more specials paying no less then 3 million dollars each?


Interesting question, huh?

Flea
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I watched DB first tv special,and found it dull and predictable, as stated in many reviews. He does use the "camera" unfairly ,with example of his levitation. Every time he would perform a top-change,the camera would turn away. As with many other moves he did.

His tricks were absolutly bog-standard, nothing I had not seen before,


Frozen in time,.............Poor.

Vertigo, as every effect he performed took no skill. They were all purchased tricks. There Were no card or coin effects worth mentioning. Without a doubt the worst, and most disappointing special yet.

There is only one thing in common I have with DB. We are both paid cheats,only he has a tv special.........ha,ha
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There are a few reasons why people get up in arms when Blaine's name is mentioned.

The first is the one that always comes up -- his effects are sometimes edited to make them appear more spectacular than they are. The levitation is one example, but there are many more. Sometimes spectator reactions are clipped from one trick and added to the end of another that got only a lukewarm reaction when presented live.

Another complaint is that his specials have gotten less and less entertaining as they've begun to focus more on his stunts. By the time Frozen in Time aired, he'd gotten down to about 5 or 10 minutes of actual magic, whereas Street Magic was one effect after another all the way through.

A third complaint is that the average magician can do nearly all of Blaine's tricks. (And since many are store bought, even mediocre magicians can do these tricks.)

But he certainly deserves some credit. His performance style, while off-putting to many magicians, works. He gets reactions that would make many of us jealous, and he's managed to become one of the best-known magicians in the world in a very short time. His success may not last -- the general public will eventually tire of his act unless he introduces a little more variety into it -- but the success is there now.

And as has been said before, he's helped to re-popularize magic, and if by doing so he's introduced other performers to new audiences, he's done magic a service.
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I think that anyone that presents magic in a positive light on TV does the art and all those who practice the art of magic nothing but good. It may not be your style of magic ( it's not really the style of magic I like or perform), but it gets the lay audience talking about magic. This can be nothing but good for us all. I applaud the Chriss Angels, David Blaines, and the Penn and Tellers of the media and their presentations of wonder and mystery.
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David Blaine is one of, if not THE most controversial magicians ever to enter the magical art. I'm going to point out a few things that need to be said.

1. Like him or hate him, stating your personal opinion on DB has no effect on how he performs. Only those that are close to him can influence how he performs, what he performs and who he performs for.
2. Despite the controversy among magicians, Fox has not and probably will not stop airing his specials. It's the same way for the Masked Magician specials.
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