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Vinnie Laraway Inner circle 1272 Posts |
Haha, nice Harry!!
What do you think about borrowing 2 rings and having each appear on each shoelace? I'm sure it would require more patter and effort, because you have to go in each pocket, but you can get around that by simply 'looking for a marker' or what have you... Maybe if you do a Himber ring effect with the Himber ring, and 2 borrowed rings, this could be a kicker ending with both borrowed rings... -Vinnie |
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robert bianchi Regular user New Jersey 159 Posts |
Harry:
I am curious. When you went to the tailor, how did you instruct them to prepare the gimmick. I just got mine today, and I think that it is great. I am very concerned, however, about the set up as I am not that handy with those kind of things and it appears from the DVD that it must be pretty specific. I thought of using the tailor too, but to me, unless he saw the video, it would be hard to explain. Any suggestions or a PM would be greatly appreciated. Bob |
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Michael Graves Regular user Minnesota 150 Posts |
I have modified my shoes a bit and added some Fail Safe pieces, for a few tips PM me
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fib Inner circle 1535 Posts |
I don't get you guys. Take the ring. Vanish it with a TT. At some point in your presentation, point to a small, black felt pouch tied to your shoelace. Have someone untie the lace. Reach into the pouch and produce the gosh darn ring.
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bond19 Inner circle Blackpool, England 1338 Posts |
Fib - But you miss the magic of the ring APPEARING tied to your lace. This is what really hits them between the eys!! (not performed yet myself just watched Sanders many times at Blackpool).
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CoinMan21 Elite user China 442 Posts |
Not to mention the limitation in the ring size.
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bond19 Inner circle Blackpool, England 1338 Posts |
Harry,
Please could you advice on how you instructed the tailor to fit the interlace gimmick. Did you have to send the bookelt and DVD etc? Did you have to be there to have it attatched exactly in the correct place? |
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Michael Graves Regular user Minnesota 150 Posts |
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On 2007-03-01 00:04, fib wrote: Not even close to the same effect, why would you let them untie it and then you go in the bag? It makes no sence whats so ever and with sanders I have them pull it off my shoelace. |
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TanMai New user 16 Posts |
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On 2007-03-01 00:04, fib wrote: In a previous post, somebody was wondering if it could be a bit degrading for someone's ring to end up on your shoe, which I don't think it's the case. But having someone untie the lace on front of all the audience IS degrading... |
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
Having the ring appear in a small bag tied to your lace not only wouldn't be nearly as impactful, it also wouldn't make much sense.
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Michael Graves Regular user Minnesota 150 Posts |
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On 2007-03-01 08:51, TanMai wrote: I said pull it off my lace..not untie it, there is a huge difference and puts there mind in a bad place because they have no way of understanding because in their eyes I never touched the ring at all. no matter how slow you go when you pull off the ring yourself it will always be in question if you did something funny..I do not care how slow or how fair you do it. I go down and untie the lace and then say here look its your ring and then they pull it off as you start to remove it. I.E. Your ring...is..tied to my shoelace....( point and look down as your saying this) ( let the magic sink in with the spectator) ( go down and untie the shoelace and say look..this is your ring yes ( the spectator ALWAYS will bend down to look without you asking them to and then you start to remove the ring and let them do the last little bit. ) So many people think its degrading to do things like this, but more then not I see magicians all the time making jokes that are at the spectators experience, I just saw a mentalist perform the other day and he told the spectator he sucked 4x in one small set, as well as made jokes that had the whole room laughing at this kid. THE RING will be degrading on your shoelace if you make it that way. burning someone's $100.00 dollar bill for the bill in lemon that can be degrading as it is hard earned money..it is how you present the effect. I like the behind the back and they guess where the ring is...I tell them if they are correct they win a nice beautiful ring, then pull it out and describe the ring a bit more then back it goes behind my back. I joke with the spectator and tell them if something happens to the ring we can get another one out of the machine....its funny they laugh I laugh...if you are a good practitioner of the Art of Magic you can make any effect good as long as you do it in taste and try your methods. I never make the spectator feel wrong, when they guess the right hand I then pull out the ring as their prize and shine it up for them with a " special cloth " and let them hang on to it as I go into the pocket for a little ring box for them,to put the ring in. Magic is all in how you do it, you can be the hack that gets a trick and try's it out on everyone before you even practice it, or you can spend the time and look into he psychology of magic and the ability to use your skill and Art to amaze and make a moment of magic in the eyes of the spectator. Just because you make a ring appear on your shoelace is not the magic...that is just a tool for you to use true magic and give the spectator a moment in time they will NEVER forget. Michael Graves http://www.gravesmagic.com |
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ixnay66 Inner circle Denver 1525 Posts |
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On 2007-03-01 00:04, fib wrote: Your taking something that's incredibly magical to a spectator and not only muddying up the effect in THEIR eyes, but you're making things hard on yourself by adding in a TT and a bag to deal with. |
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Michael Graves Regular user Minnesota 150 Posts |
I look at this effect as I look at mentalism, the more props you add and the more " junk " you toss in the worse the effect becomes. A classic example is the Koran Medallion and how so many magicians have come up with ways to hide this and that or ways to do it all secret, when you don't need to do all that..just do it.....so with sanders I add a cloth and that's it...no mud no scum just plain hard right in between the eyes magic.
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Vinnie Laraway Inner circle 1272 Posts |
Hey guys... I got my order in today, and this is fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rich and Dasha (phew.. HOT!) do a GREAT job explaining every single thing you need to get this hooked up and ready to go!! The method is absolutely original, and a brilliant idea! I am going to try to construct the gimmick this weekend... Rich, great job! Definetly gets my vote for the Trick Of '07! Oh, and by the way.. I just hopped over to Sanders' site ( http://www.sandersfx.com ) and guess what . . . YUP!! THE 'ANY RING' HANDKERCHIEF IS AVAILIBLE!!! http://sandersfx.com/anyring.html Have fun, -Vinnie |
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kalsolar New user 51 Posts |
People will be far to stunned and amazed to wonder if seeing their ring on your shoelace is degrading! It would be the last thing on their mind. However... be sure that your installed gimmick is working 100% before trying it out, as a spectators ring found laying on the floor is quite a different matter! That would be degrading for them and embarrasing for you at the same time.
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
I always give the effect a test run before I perform it that night. I have had no problems since.
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tophatter Inner circle connecticut 3329 Posts |
I must have done this 100 times already practice trials & have not missed once . No Why ? to the left I have added an extra small square ****** Piece of mind for only 1.75 everytime I look down the ring is there. In fact many times the ring has gone to the left only to find it magically tied to the shoelace . I then give the foot a shake Richard explains this in the Dvd. This has to be one of the best tricks of the year still gonna do my ring flight !
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BrianMillerMagic Inner circle CT 2050 Posts |
He's done it! I've been searching for a powerful, practical ring flight that fits my performing style for a long time now, and this is finally it. I received the package a couple weeks ago but I've finally just finished installing everything (I needed new dress shoes because mine were the kind without laces). Been through practice sessions but never tested out in performance yet. I'm working on the best way of loading the ring coming out of Greg Wilson's Ring Leader routine as a way to finish an already great routine. I am excited to eventually add this to my repertoire. Thanks Richard!
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Rich B. Special user Philadelphia 632 Posts |
I finally used Interlaced in a restaurant gig this past Sunday. I performed it about 6 times and it went over incredibly. Richard Sanders is one of my favorite magicians and I use a lot of his material.
Once your set up, this has got to be one of the best effects vs. effort type tricks. You can repeat this over and over and all you need (besides shoes with laces and , and modified pants) is a very small gimmick to create this miracle. I'm sure my routine will be evolving, but here are a few tips that I learned. Don't let a long time go between the vanish of the ring and the appearance on the shoe. I vanished the ring at the begining using heat from a lighter. I then failed to make it reapear by reversing the process (showing empty hand)and sayin "I'm kidding...I can't bring it back...not that way. I then introduce a shoe lace and have 2 people hold the ends while I say, "look my hands are empty...look at the center of the shoe lace". I bring my hands together over the lace in a rubbing motion (specs at this time are saying "No Way"). I remove my hands, show no ring and say "that would of been a hellava trick...but would it be a better trick if it appeared on a different shoe lace?" and then of course I reveal the ring. I'm leaving out some of the bi-play which extends this routine a bit more. Why I'm telling you this is now I know I have to trim the fat a bit on this routine. One of my co-workers came with his family to see me at the restaurant and I performed Interlaced. The next day he said that's all that they talked about on the way home. He said no one ever saw me bend down to tie it on my shoe because I "distracted" them at the right time. In my opinion if they think that, this diminishes the effect. I disagree with Richard Sanders on the DVD that this could be used like a bill to lemon type trick. Time misdirection will not help. This is way to powerful to let someone think you tied it on when they were not looking. One last thing, the gimmick that gets hooked to the ring was attaching itself to the lighter in my right pants pocket and to a purse frame in my right jacket pocket. I didn't want to fumble looking for this thing, so I came up with this idea. I placed a metal washer with duct tape on the underside of my jacket lapel and stick the gimmick to that. All I have to do is grab my lapel in a gesture and secure the gimmick...it works very well. Rich B. |
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GeneTony Special user 509 Posts |
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He said no one ever saw me bend down to tie it on my shoe because I "distracted" them at the right time. They may say that, but it sounds like they are just needing to find a rational explanation so they can sleep that night. It's the only method that makes any sense to them. But if they consider nobody saw you bend over, it hurts their sense of logic too much Reminds me of a spectator who after seeing me perform a torn & restored newspaper told me "I think you use special paper that mends itself". I agree that if they even entertain that as a possibility, it can take away the power of the effect. The only thing you can do to remedy this is to shorten the time span between the last time they see the ring in your hand and then see it on your shoelace. Why not have the specs hold the shoelace first, before you make the ring vanish. Pretend you're going to do a ring-on-string effect by making the metal 'dissolve' through the string, then suddenly realize the ring dissolved too much... and in just three seconds it's on your shoelace.
Some think Houdini used trap doors in his act, but he was just going through a stage.
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