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Mike Maturen
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On 2011-06-27 14:40, Nick Astle wrote:

After all, Scripture's most powerful truth, the basis for our faith - the Crucifixion - is incredibly gruesome.


...and Truth be told, we "whitewash" how gruesome it REALLY was. The pictures and paintings and statues are actually pretty "woosified" in my opinion. The portrayal of the crucifixion by Mel Gibson in "The Passion of the Christ" was a little closer to what really happened. Many centuries ago in the Catholic Church, many of the crucifixes behind the altars were VERY graphic and gruesome...quite bloody, actually. I wish they had never changed this...sometimes I think we need this gruesome reminder of what our Lord went through on our behalf.

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There. I am a tad long-winded. I guess that's the Pastor in me again Smile


As a former protestant minister...I can identify! When I said "in conclusion", I didn't necessarily mean right away!
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Nick Astle
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On 2011-06-27 16:07, Mike Maturen wrote:
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On 2011-06-27 14:40, Nick Astle wrote:

After all, Scripture's most powerful truth, the basis for our faith - the Crucifixion - is incredibly gruesome.


...and Truth be told, we "whitewash" how gruesome it REALLY was. The pictures and paintings and statues are actually pretty "woosified" in my opinion. The portrayal of the crucifixion by Mel Gibson in "The Passion of the Christ" was a little closer to what really happened. Many centuries ago in the Catholic Church, many of the crucifixes behind the altars were VERY graphic and gruesome...quite bloody, actually. I wish they had never changed this...sometimes I think we need this gruesome reminder of what our Lord went through on our behalf.

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There. I am a tad long-winded. I guess that's the Pastor in me again Smile


As a former protestant minister...I can identify! When I said "in conclusion", I didn't necessarily mean right away!


Surely this is not exclusive to protestants alone haha.

On the topic of illusions, anyone else here guilty of seeing favourite illusions and thinking "I wonder how I could adapt that patter to have a Christian message?"

Or is this simply part of what we do? Personally, I enjoy the creativity in it, I like it. Sometimes I'll do it even if I'm sure I would never perform an illusion!
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You know, I don't really do that. Usually it happens with something I already have and I will get like an inspiration or something. I will be practicing or performing the effect and it will dawn on me how a certain verse fits. But that's only the first step, developing a complete routine takes time. I know I'm on the right track when I continue with it from start to finish and it stays on point . I love when this happens.

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Mike Maturen
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Nick,

I think all magician's do this in some form or fashion...perhaps not for a gospel message...I think we are always thinking about how we can adapt patter to our own unique audience. For instance, Daryl's effect, "Papa Rabbit Hits The Big Time" has patter that is geared for an adult audience, yet you can adapt it for a younger audience...or even for a kid's show, or gospel show.

Heck, I can't go to a garage sale, second-hand store, or just about anywhere without thinking about how the stuff on the shelf could be used for a magic trick. It's a curse, I tell you...a curse!

...and you're right about long-windedness not just being a protestant thing. I have since converted to the Catholic faith. Most Priests tend to keep their homilies anywhere from 10-15 minutes. However, our previous Priest was from Nigeria...and HE would preach for 20-25 minutes...and once in a while, would go on a marathon! I miss him. He now is back in Nigeria at a parish there. A couple of weeks ago, the Cathedral of the Diocese of Maiduguri (where he lives and works) was bombed.

Please keep him (Fr. William Tizhe Livinus) and his Bishop (Bp. Oliver Dashe Doeme) and all the Nigerian Christians in your prayers...they are under serious attack.

Okay...back to magic.
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Donald Dunphy
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On 2011-06-26 21:22, Terry Owens wrote:
The Web would be a great illusion and it comes in one case and will travel easily. You certainly could use it for a gospel presentation how the enemy will try to hold you back, or differnt things that keep you from going forward for Christ...fear, lack of faith, intimidation and so forth. Here's the link to it...I use to have one and it's one slick illusion.

http://www.dream-illusions.com/new-illus......ory_id=1


A person could do the same message with Dan Wolfe's Thru Steel Illusion, I would imagine.

- Donald
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I have the ABC Stage blocks myself and have 3 routines/messages that go with it. What do you think is another diverse stage illusion that can have multiple applications, and can be done without a trained assistant?(I don't have an assistant so I would like something volunteer friendly or something I can do myself)any thoughts?
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