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limhanchung
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What do you think?
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Good question. Does he have any?
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You mean something he does IS original?
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As Glen David Gold has Charles Carter say in Carter Beats The Devil; "I didn't invent sugar or flour, but I bake a mean apple pie."

Of course, the quality of David Blaine's apple pie is a matter of (usually deeply divided) opinion...
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David Blaine is an exquisite performer, but nothing he performs is original.
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I've never seen another magician pretending to lie dead on the street and dancing in a puddle as comedy magic before. Gives Jackie Mason a run for his money eh?
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His stunts are original, though I don't count them anywhere near magic. He is a good performer, unfortunately employing simple and popular effects.
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
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Yea, he does do standard effects, but he is great at marketing himself. I mean, we can say anything we want about him. However, he is the one with TV specials and the tons of money. I think it has more to do with the character that he plays rather than the effects that he performs. People really beleive that he has magical powers as apposed to magicians who merely perform magic tricks.
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As far as I know, his stunts are not original either (if you mean buried alive, vertigo etc.).

They may not have been done before but I'm pretty sure they have been documented. They are very very old stunts.
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Mostly are. The TV specials and his book explain his influences for each stunt.
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I think the best Mr. Blaine can do is that he owns the T.V rights to crush and restore soda, so don't be think of taking that one up for a few years.
But credit where credit is due the guy is making a whole bog pile of cash fooling people who are not in the know!
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Well, the idea of his stunts are all unoriginal, but you must also consider that ALMOST all magic is inspired in one way or another by an old tradition/scam.
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
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On 2003-01-14 13:20, Donnay wrote:
But credit where credit is due the guy is making a whole bog pile of cash fooling people who are not in the know!


I think a lot of people( I am not jusk getting on you Donnay) put how much money a person makes = success,I know some people who have lots money but I would consider failers at LIFE, IE: drug dealers, prostitutes, Enron execs and the like, do not get me wrong money is nice and needed but, TIME is the most important commodity we have, I consider myself very successful in this business, I make a comfortable living and love the art, the greatest "pay" I get is the fact that I get to spend the majority of my life with my wife... would I take more money ? you bet, but not in exchange for much more of my time, Before I get to many responses on me equating Blain to a common street walker, I am not. I was just saying money does not equal success in my eyes.

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C'mon guys...SO he uses stuff that is not his own..HOW many of you all use other people's illusions. Oh, is it because you aren't getting paid the big bucks like mr.B? Well, I'm definitely not in love with him but if his "character" has gotten him on national tv, and the way he performs has gotten people once again into magic..then great. Doesn't he deserve the money because it's his "character" , the way he presented that got him there.

Many tricks that Harry Anderson uses are NOT his. Needle thru arm--orginated thru someone else...card on seat, chap-o, pen thru tongue, and there is much more. But just like Blaine (but in the late 80's) Harry got popular using these tricks (not to mention being on tv). He was even KNOWN for the needle thru the arm (originally NOT his--though he made one later). Also chapeaugraphy came back because of him--(chap-o NOT his) He was one of the highest paid magicians...he developed his magic character and went with it. Because he was so good at it, he is now retired at 50.
I am sure there are tons of magicians who use unoriginal material--as well as using other magicians' lines in performance too!

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On 2003-01-16 15:10, harryandersonfan wrote:
C'mon guys...SO he uses stuff that is not his own..HOW many of you all use other people's illusions. Oh, is it because you aren't getting paid the big bucks like mr.B? Well, I'm definitely not in love with him but if his "character" has gotten him on national tv, and the way he performs has gotten people once again into magic..then great. Doesn't he deserve the money because it's his "character" , the way he presented that got him there.

Many tricks that Harry Anderson uses are NOT his. Needle thru arm--orginated thru someone else...card on seat, chap-o, pen thru tongue, and there is much more. But just like Blaine (but in the late 80's) Harry got popular using these tricks (not to mention being on tv). He was even KNOWN for the needle thru the arm (originally NOT his--though he made one later). Also chapeaugraphy came back because of him--(chap-o NOT his) He was one of the highest paid magicians...he developed his magic character and went with it. Because he was so good at it, he is now retired at 50.
I am sure there are tons of magicians who use unoriginal material--as well as using other magicians' lines in performance too!

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Yet the question was... "Which Blaine trick is original?"

And the answer probably is... "NONE"

And for most skilled magicians, I tend to believe they try to develop their skills in order to improve an effect (new or old) and therefore possbily call it their own original.

I have a coin routine with borrowed ideas and moves from a bunch of coin greats... but nobody does MY routine... so I guess it's original, eh?

Even Blaine's camera trick levitation isn't 'original'.

They used the same concept in Superman the Movie back in the 80s and the people on the street were like... "WOW!!!!"
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What about the needle through hand he perfformed on jonathan ross's show? i haven't seen that before anywhere?

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Paul,

The needle through the arm (as performed) has been around since the 1960’s. There is an earlier version that was performed at carnivals but used a different method. The carnival version was being used in the 1940’s and maybe earlier.

Harry Anderson made the needle through arm trick popular back in the early 70’s.
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I never saw any magician swallow a snake or a piece of thread and then pull it out of somewhere else till I saw DB do it.
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On 2003-01-31 14:54, johnr733 wrote:
I never saw any magician swallow a snake or a piece of thread and then pull it out of somewhere else till I saw DB do it.


Watch some older Penn & Teller routines. From eating thread with razors to cutting snakes in half... etc.etc.etc.
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With regards to the needle in the arm trick. He put it through his hand, don't know if that makes a difference?

I don't see why he should be given any stick for not doing anything new. There are millions of tricks already in existence. O.K. it's cool when people make up their own stuff and it's nice for us lot to see something new. But simple tricks performed well are often the best tricks for laymen. Which after all is our target audience. It's nice to show magicians something they haven't seen before but it doesn't really apply to Joe Public. Joe just likes to be fooled and often the oldies but goldies will do the trick
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